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Written by Kay2zed (1 comments posted) 2nd August 2007 |
| Poetry should be clever and at the same time silly but never be willy-nilly... |
Written by Bottleblondesurfer (3351 comments posted) 2nd August 2007 |
I think you are probably right which is the reason I don't right any. Comedy is so much easier it only has to be one thing.
Jane |
Written by Phil (6713 comments posted) 2nd August 2007 |
I think you're right too. The bugger of it is - I find it infuriatingly fascinating - damned difficult -addictive. Perhaps I should stick to your second.
Enjoyed.
Phil. |
Written by gshelme (152 comments posted) 3rd August 2007 |
really liked this,and I agree poetry should be whatever you want it to be. 
Gill |
Written by maipenrai (783 comments posted) 3rd August 2007 |
good one, what should poetry be????accessible!.
by that I mean something that is easily understood.
Bernie |
Written by rilLie (327 comments posted) 3rd August 2007 |
| I like this. :D and yes, poetry could be about anything, and it all depends on the poet. =^__^= good read. |
TESCO CELTIC.
Written by gerardconnolly (1186 comments posted) 4th August 2007 |
I always enjoy reading what you produce, Oli. Silly ramblings or no. And yes this is a bit of silly rambling. But welcome nonetheless if only for its shamless lack of pretension or contrivance. [ Which sets it apart from a good 90% of the residue of the Poetry Forum ]
However I would be failing in my duty if I did not temper my plaudit with the aside that I do still look to you to produce the ' Big Ballad ' you are surely capable of and which would prove a total and original departure for this site. We live in hope and expectation.. Most notably, as the new soccer season opens, you the former and me the latter.
Also I should add that I am surprised you have so much time for such ramblings. Heaven alone knows what the late Jack Cohen, God rest his soul, would think if he knew his employees were spending so much time day dreaming when they should be looking after their customers on the till.
Slan! |
Written by stevetroster (1549 comments posted) 4th August 2007 |
Ah, at last, some common ground.
It’s good to see somebody dole out some sound and common sense guidance on the art of poetry.
Whether ‘angst’ - ‘emotionally retarded’ - ‘the work of a student’ - ‘shock horror’ provided that it is poetry, then let it be.
Although it’s a shame that some of the reviewers don’t see it that way, attacking the work of 90% of the contributors as a thinly veiled attempt to win the support of one contributor is, in my opinion, a rather asinine balloon-headed way of conducting oneself.
SHAMLESS!! I wonder - another typo, or a subconscious admission?
Well done, Oli.
Keep up the good work.
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Written by fellpony (1608 comments posted) 5th August 2007 |
Looks as though any work with Poetry or Sex in the title gets lots of people reading it
Nicely wide-ranging, Oli, with your usual competent handling of structure/rhyme/metre, and a silly rhythm to match the teasing questions.
For me, "poetry" can be many things including all those you've suggested here - provided it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. (Verse is something else ... at which point I shall go away and meditate. Which probably proves the worth of the piece.)
Thanks Oli.
As for "shamless", yup, Oli doesn't sham anything, what you see is what you get. He doesn't plagiarise reviews either. |
Not worried...
Written by patterjack (1193 comments posted) 5th August 2007 |
... about accessibility . A reader should be able to use brainpower to work out depths of meanings.
I'll mainly go with *Leave us enriched* as any great literature should illuminate .
Unfortunately, someone here has taken the opportunity to peddle paranoia and express it illogically.
patterjack |
Written by maipenrai (783 comments posted) 8th August 2007 |
| and if the reader is uneducated does that mean that poetry is not for them?? get real |
Written by patterjack (1193 comments posted) 8th August 2007 |
What do you mean by *uneducated* ?
For centuries , many people lacking in *education* (as it seems you are negatively defining it at least by implication )have gained from an oral tradition , frequently poetic , which brings illumination and insight into their lives.
The *reality* of the situation is that they use brainpower in working as deeply into the poetry in their own way as do the *literate* . The exercise of that brainpower is an educative process in itself.
Poems are not emollients to be smoothed on and passively absorbed .
They are for everybody to gain insight from them , and the reader/hearer /audience participates in a two way process. Look to the groundlings of Shakespeare's Globe Theatre.
patterjack
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Wait a minute!
Written by Talisker (1326 comments posted) 8th August 2007 |
No scrapping in my back yard!
There are other places to debate such points, such as the forum.
Here is me thinking I'm getting a review, only to find two adults scratching and pulling hair!
Ironically, the original, very flawed piece, is saying that poetry is anything the writer or reader thinks/wants it to be. So you are both correct.
I expect this kind of childishness from another reviewer of this piece, but not from respected friends!
Oli
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Written by maipenrai (783 comments posted) 8th August 2007 |
| Agreed |
Wll , Oli ...
Written by patterjack (1193 comments posted) 8th August 2007 |
... if people want to misinterpret what I say, and tell me to * get real* I prefer to adopt a reasoned argument in a reasonable tone rather than merely reply with * get stuffed *
patterjack |
Written by maipenrai (783 comments posted) 8th August 2007 |
I Fall on My Sword Oli.
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definition of poetry..........
Written by Bagheera (683 comments posted) 8th August 2007 |
............. the one I got from a brilliant english tutor at Uni will do very nicely, thank you!
Matt Doyle, one of the truly great tutors I was privileged to study under at Liverpool Uni, defined poetry thusly:
"Poetry:saying as much as possible while using the least possible number of words"
"That'll do, pig" (as the old farmer says at the end of the film "Babe") |
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