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REMEMBRANCE. A SHORT POSTSCRIPT
By gerardconnolly
18 November 2007
I thought I would wait a respectful distance from all those poems of remembrance before posting this, a mildly amusing aside from an Irish perspective. Though not in the same vein as Josie nor Bernie, it does at least illuminate.



It has to say something with regard to the contrary extremes of Ireland's histiory that She played an enormous part in the First World War, and had little or no role to speak of in the Second. Indeed it has been claimed that after the English, none of the inhabitants of the home nations gave more in dead bodies during the first conflict than did the Irish. A claim much disputed by the Welsh and Scots; but which may have some semblence of truth to it, if only by virtue of the nature of Ireland's abject poverty acting as the most persuasive of recruiting sergeants.

No matter. By the time the second came around there was no such ambiguity. Ireland remained embarrassingly but steadfastly neutral. A position which, despite the posturing and bluster of both De Valera and Churchill, suited both very well. Dev, since Ireland was totally unready for a part in the world conflict -- dubbed  'The Emergency ' in the Republic -- and almost totally unwilling to side with the British. Churchill, since Ireland's neutrality virtually guaranteed it would not be invaded by the Germans and thus provide a hostile base from which to threaten the British mainland.
Of course in public both huffed and puffed. Yet as extant Cabinet Papers show, Irish neutrality was a Godsend to the Churchill Government; especially as it was nothing if not benign, allowing access to safe ports and a route for escapees from Nazi occupied Europe.

That is not to say that there were not those, thousands as it happens, of Irish who opted to serve in the British Army during the Second World War. Special regiments were created and preserved for them. The most famous of which was The Royal Irish Hussars [ the orginal 'Desert Rats' ] who served with such distinction and bravery under Montgomery, himself considered Irish, in the Eighth Army, as to be singled out for particular and heartfelt mention by their General. And of whom, sadly it has to be said, barely half returned home to their native towns and villages to be at peace; or whatever.

So then what epitaph for those who risked and sacrificed all, not to save the British Empire; but to defeat Fascism? Candidly none, I fear. For there are no Cenotaphs in the Irish Republic. Nor are ther any official celebrations to comemorate the passing of fallen heroes who happen to boot to have fallen foul of the fury of nations.

Which is why in the late Eighties, in one of its last acts of civic usefulness, the failing Fitzgerald Administration, shamed out of inertia and looking to divert the attention of a public less then enamoured of its seismic incompetence, instituted ' A Great Debate' in relation to those who had given their lives fighting for the British Crown. This included, incidentally, all those who had joined up desperate for food and welfare, as well as those who had made a choice based upon principle. Regrettably, as with all discussions of momentous issues of conscience and constitution in Ireland, it commenced with high mindedness and closed with high farce.

Opening the debate the Taoiseach declared :

' I am very much taken with the view that the Irish people wish to be able to celebrate a contribution to these awesome and decisive combats beyond the person of William Joyce [ Lord Haw Haw ]. '

Er.... Yes. Well, Amen to that. Nonetheless though well intentioned, as could have been predicted, as soon as the question was thrown open to the floor, came there the blistering wind of divisiveness as though once again unleashed across Ireland by the monstrous, unquiet bellows of the Civil War. There were those who wished to build memorials at once in defiance of the law against the erection of foreign monuments on Irish soil and began taking public subscriptions. There were also -- wouldn't you just know it --the prehistoric dinosaurs of the GAA and Clanna na Gael swearing to dismantle every such monument brick by brick with their own bare hands and enforce the Constitution of 1937. And there were the more pragamatic old Republicans of the Official IRA who, reverting to type, simply promised to blow the bloody lot up alongside Nelson's Column and Post Boxes bearing the insignia ' GR '. This last, you understand, despite the Ministry of Public Works having spent shedloads of taxpayer's money on painting them all green.

The Great Debate, such as it was, reached its culmination -- nadir would have been a more accurate description --in the Dail. When for four frantic days while Hospital Workers' Pay went unsettled; and a resolution to Round up Roaming Dogs failed for want of time, Teacha Dala and Senators railed against each other, hurling abuse, scuffling and very generally vowing to nail each other's tits to the gates of Armagh in pursuance of an amicable settlement of this most delicate of matters. 

In the end a compromise was reached. And it was broadly agreed that the Republic should offer to be represented at the Armistice Ceremony at the Cenotaph in London. There to lay a wreath, not of Poppies........but, wait for it......wait for it.........OF SHAMROCKS!!!! I will repeat this last just in case anyone cannot believe their eyes; or simply thinks that it is a misprint : A wreath not of Poppies; but of Shamrocks!!! 

It is the poor, bewildered British you have to feel sorry for here. Watching events unfold in the Republic with an admixture of amazement and consternation, not for the first time they came to the rescue of their Gaelic cousins. Mercifully they spared their neighbours' blushes with a polite but firm decline of the offer on the grounds that as both sides were assiduoulsy to book in the business of blasting each others' brains out in the North of Ireland, now was probably not an appropriate time to bury the hatchet on previous disputes. Mind, you have to wonder whether or not the very thought of C.J. ' Charlie Boy ' Haughey of the emerging Celtic Tiger, bouncing up to the Cenotaph in front of the Queen with a garland of green to the tune of ' Mother O'Grady's Chickens ' might not, in reality, have been too much for the British Establishment to stomach? We shall never know. For there it remains. Those who tasted the bitter cull of war have none to mourn or celebrate their selflessness publicly. 

Well. Not quite. This summer past with the Good Friday Agreement in place there came the chance to capture at last the hand of friendship as between these warring peoples of these our islands. ' God Save the Queen ' was sung at Croke Park and listened to in respectful silence; and then applauded. O tempora! O mores! What better epitaph could there be than this. Not of words; nor of stone. None better to remember them by. None better.



Reviews
Neutrality
Written by patterjack (1927 comments posted) 18th November 2007
We all know what happens to people who sit on fences , and as i remarked in another place , it would be inappropriate for an outsider to comment on a problem that has lasted since some sage person said By the Lord Harry , green is the grass that grows on the ground
 
I am perversely reminded of what is going on with a mining company in Papua New Guinea wishing to dig for metals in the sacred ground of the Kokoda Track. The issue there will probably devolve on who is willing to pay the bigger bribe to the government 
 
In the end, satire of some kind may be appropriate . 
 
Dean Swift, sometimes pro-, sometimes anti- Irish , came momentarily out of his final madness to pen this epigram , which can be used to illustrate the idiocy of the whole divisive situation;  
 
Behold a proof of irish sense ,  
Here irish wit is seen ,  
Where nothing's left that's worth defence ,  
They build a magazine
 
 
Substitute any nationality for Irish 
 
patterjack

Written by Fledermaus (4146 comments posted) 18th November 2007
The more I read about WW2, the nmore obvious it becomes things aren't black and white and both sides made use of tensions already present. Appearantly Chiang Kaishek's son was an officer in the Wehrmacht a few years before the Germans allied with Japan. Indians fought for British, Germans and Japanese. The USA had a division made up of ethnic Japanese. And one of the greatest war-heroes in the allied liberation of the Netherlands was in fact a German who had once worn a brown uniform (prince Bernhard). 
So if in countries which clearly chose sides things are already so unclear, should it be a surprise they are in Ireland? 
 
A wraith of shamrocks. I like it... 

Written by Phil (8763 comments posted) 18th November 2007
Interesting piece. I have to confess, Irish history - Irish influence on the UK or the other way around, wasn't taught when I was at school - and I doubt it is now. 
 
A wraith of shamrocks - not the worst idea in the world - but probably on the way. I thought one of the ideas behind the poppy as a symbol was that it could cross international and nationalist boundaries. Just as well it wasn't adopted. Can you imagine the scope for comedy script writers?  
 
Hopefully, we have a more settled co-existence now. I have to confess, while I detest my national anthem for its religious, royal and elitist overtones, it was a special moment when it was sung at Croke park. A comment of possible ignorance: wasn't the majority of animosity in the north anyway? My Irish relations (from the Republic) have never (seemed) to have any problems living here or at home and always distanced themselves to what were/are laughingly know as 'the troubles.' I wonder who coined that term of gross understatement? 
 
A good read and educational to boot. 
 
Phil
Thinking....
Written by gerardconnolly (1354 comments posted) 18th November 2007
Hello Brian and how much I agree with you. 
 
My purpose in penning this piece was to add weight to what Josie and Bernie had written. But with the advantage of standing aloof.  
 
It is a little disconcerting that most of those who responded to the call to recall were those who were older. It irks but does not surprise me that me that those who neglect the lessons of history are those who are bound to repeat them. The young. No matter. If death is the measure by which we shall judge, then so be it. Let us all go to hell in a handcart. 
 
Nice to be reminded of Dean Swift. Now there is someone who ' thought '. 
 
Slan!
Yup....
Written by gerardconnolly (1354 comments posted) 19th November 2007
Yes. True, Mouse. 
 
But the history of the peoples of theses our islands is somewhat more complex than that. We hate; HATE!! eachother. Broadly speaking, Celt against Saxon; and Saxon against Celt. T'was ever thus; and, it has to be said, t'will be ever thus.  
 
As an educated and erudite Celt : I abhor; am in contempt of; totally and utterly have the utmost scorn for.... Vomit upon...the Saxon. The very scum of being...The very turd from which even the flies flee in horror..... 
 
You get my drift? 
 
Of course you do. 
 
Slan!
There is a God......
Written by gerardconnolly (1354 comments posted) 19th November 2007
Hey! Well Phil! If ' God Save the Queen ' got you goin',..... there is a God! 
 
Seriously though, I found it enormously; enormously moving. OK I'm Irish; and for the vast population of the British Isles it would have gone unoticed. But for those of us who cared... the earth moved. Only minutely, you understand. But moved nonetheless. 
 
Perhaps that's how it progresses. 
 
Slan!
Enjoyed
Written by Bottleblondesurfer (5077 comments posted) 19th November 2007
A fine piece of writing, both informative and witty. I didn’t know so many Irish fought in the war. I found it a fascinating read. It has increased my understanding of that odd period. A great mix of information and comment, which I know is a difficult trick to pull off. 
I will say it doesn’t come as a complete surprise to discover so many fought. Throughout history, they have always been ready to fight if the cause [and sometimes the money] is right.  
There was a large number who chose to fight for freedom in the Spanish Civil War forming the iconic Fifteenth International Brigade and fought and died bravely but on the other side, the Church recruited a contingent of Brown shirts to fight for Franco and blessed the boat as it sailed off. So we fought on both sides.It’s odd how the church unerringly manages to choose the wrong side every time. I remember the Pope didn’t condemn the concentration camps, but I digress. 
I was also intrigued to learn of the ambivalence of Britain to Ireland’s neutrality but as you laid it out so clearly I can well believe it. Things are never straightforward where Britain and Ireland are concerned. I thought the idea of a wraith of shamrocks was precious, a delightfully surreal compromise and at the same time subtlety insulting, if only. 
Maybe, as you say Gerard, that was a fitting epitaph, though to my mind the return of the six counties would be the ultimate tribute to fallen Irish. 
Nice piece. 
Jane 
Hi Gerard
Written by jean.day (2908 comments posted) 20th November 2007
I too found this very informative and an interesting read.  
 
My father-in-law had something to do with intelligence during the Second World War which involved Ireland - and he was of the opinion (or so I am told) that Ireland was not as neutral as they were supposed to be. So it is good to get another perspective on it.  
 
Always a pleasure to read your work.
A little reminder...
Written by gerardconnolly (1354 comments posted) 22nd November 2007
Well Jane, thank you. But I must pull you up on the return of the Six Counties. Since Pat n' Mick got rich they have been in two minds about getting Ulster -- or best part of it -- back. They looked at Germany and saw how reunification lead to recession; and the strongest ecomomy in the West couldn't take it! Went down the pan. Western German Taxpayers are still paying the price for swollowing up the needy East.  
 
That lesson was not lost on the Southern Irish. They had always regarded the North/Ulster as a confirmed form of pondlife. Do they really want them back....? And have to pay for it!!? Time was when the North [ ie the Prots ] looked askance at Irish unity on the grounds that they did not want to be associated with their poverty stricken cousins. Now the boot's on the other foot. With the Celtic Tiger looking down on the newly empoverished North. Time will tell and the jury's out; but for now, Republicanism has reverted to cosy Romanticism. And bank jobs. 
 
Thanks for your e-mail by the way. I will reply. 
 
Slan!
Well, well, well...
Written by gerardconnolly (1354 comments posted) 22nd November 2007
Many thanks Jean. Always good to hear from you. Fancy having to sell Cley. Too bad. Mind I am sure you will put the money to good use. 
 
Fancy, too, your father- in- law being in Intelligence. He should have met my Da. I'm sure they would have had a lot to discuss. 
 
A Dhia dhilis!! 
 
Slan!

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