This is my first contribution to GW and I would be grateful of any feedback from experienced and amateur writers alike. This piece is in rhyme royal, so iambic, however the final line of each stanza is trochaic. Here's to learning from you all.
CHEESE AND ALE
Falstaffian appetites bloat my human form
To bursting flesh, my cheeks being freshly roasted.
My diet as wild as tempest, wild as storm,
Morale and merlots shall be rightly hoisted,
Cheese and ale be toasted and be toasted.
With pride let's hurl ourselves off of the wagon
Quaffing stout and cider by the flagon.
My face, an empty carcass, hangs. My eyes,
As fat as green beer bellies, sway protruding,
My bellies spilling past my groin and thighs.
For vanity I'm seldom one for brooding,
My girth and conscience never found in feuding
With stout and stilton brimming plates and glasses:
Dieticians cast into the masses.
Don't seed the chilli, nor the chicken skin,
For man would weep so empty, sob so bare.
To reap your harvest do not spare the gin,
Each fumbled grain, each wasted drop, beware.
The unlived life's disease beyond repair,
Our invitation valid this one time.
Stagger, drunkard, revel in roared rhyme.
Black ales, blue cheeses, ruddy faced good cheer,
Red blooded fellowship and mottled mirth,
The maids who serve up candour and cool beer;
All reasons for clinging to this goodly earth:
For Death marks us the moment of our birth.
Too sanguine have my face and humour been?
Both shall blush and both too soon be green.
And when I beat my heart as I sure must
And lie, martini like, so deathly chilled,
Potato Head Blues blow my mortal dust;
Good tunes live long where man dies unfulfilled.
Yet vow before you lay my rotund build
No mournings promulgated nor be posted:
Cheese and ale be toasted and be toasted.
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Written by NathanRoberts (277 comments posted) 24th February 2008 |
So, you're fond of the odd pub lunch I guess? I found myself adopting a Brian Blessed style voice as I read it, which made me smile at least. Personally, I never mix my iambics with my trochaics and I ussually opt for peasant rhyme, but that's just a matter of taste. Only kidding...I haven't a clue what those terms mean, you can definately file me under amateur . |
Cheers Nathan Written by Brett (731 comments posted) 24th February 2008 |
Oddly I hardly touch solids whilst in a drinking establishment - Can't seem to eat on an empty stomach. Like the idea of adopting Brian Blessed's voice, it's so tempting to write everything to suit his voice now you've mentioned it though. Nice to have the feedback. Cheers Brett |
Nathan re Brian Blessed Written by Brett (731 comments posted) 24th February 2008 |
Regarding writing for Brian Blessed's resonant tone, how about 'Ballad of a Boisterous Bastard' ? Just a working title. Brett |
Written by Veronica_Milvus (595 comments posted) 24th February 2008 |
I like this. I like someone who understands the technical terms for verse forms and has a bloody good go at them. There were some tremendous lines here. I really liked the "mottled mirth". I like the way the excess quickly spilled over into disgust. I like the idea that cheese and ale are almost too "lively" and martinis are somehow dead. Good stuff! A couple of spellos: did you mean "dietician"? and "morals"? welcome to GW. I'm a relative newbie myself and also keen to try out different verse forms. |
Thankyou Veronica Written by Brett (731 comments posted) 24th February 2008 |
Thank you for your comments Veronica, you are one of those who I have read and admired this past week waiting for my account to be activated. And after reading some of your reviews I consider this praise indeed. As for spellos: I did not mean morals. Morale is what I meant, as in attitude of mind being hoisted, in my haste I have mistyped. As for dietition and dietician I find they are both accepted spellings in the OED. I do appreciate your time and comments Veronica thank you very much. Kind regards Brett |
Written by Phil (6645 comments posted) 24th February 2008 |
Dietition/dietician: The OED must be going to pot. However, checked it in Collins and both are listed there too. Just looks wrong to me with tion as a suffix. I couldn't get the rhythm of this until the second verse. I think it may be the way I'm reading line two. Thereafter it rattled along very well. Liked this, tone and all. Phil
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Cheers Phil Written by Brett (731 comments posted) 24th February 2008 |
Thanks for your feedback, Phil. Perhaps I am going to pot along with the OED. I think I understand the problem with rhythm in the first stanza. Although it is iambic I have Falstaffian (3 syllables) directly followed by appetites which, for the purpose of rhythm I intended to be read appe-tites (2 syllsbles). Like I say, I can only learn from those more experienced and sober. 'I think it may be the way I'm reading line two.' In the first stanza or second where you got the rhythm do you mean? All criticism taken on board, Phil, as I have read some of your stuff. Thanks, and kind regards Brett |
Written by patterjack (1159 comments posted) 24th February 2008 |
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Speaking from experience ... Written by patterjack (1159 comments posted) 24th February 2008 |
... ( and this is not the first time that I have suffered from and cursed clumsy fingers on the keyboard-- so I am sorry about the blank I just fired !! ) To resume -- speaking from experience in battling some of the more tricksy forms of verse (eg pantoum , villanelle ) I can commend your effort at rhyme royal . Sometimes it means one is pushed into reliance on half rhymes -- roasted / hoisted -- but then I am a devotee of half rhyme anyway . Trochees are very useful but I prefer dactyls and anapaests if they are available . Cheese and ale be toasted and be toasted. Great pun ! and a very clever final repetition of that line . Off of as a usage I am not happy with. There are however many clever , very subtle language usages that I appreciate highly. Well done patterjack |
To patterjack Written by Brett (731 comments posted) 25th February 2008 |
Thank you for your kind comments. Yes, I quite like half rhymes. Have you posted any villanelles? It is a form I adore, but I have only written one that I think I may be happy with (and that I changed time and time again). I may consider submitting it. The usage that you are not happy with - off of, it is grammatically correct is it? Thanks again, Patterjack, much appreciated. Brett |
Hi Brett Written by jean.day (2257 comments posted) 25th February 2008 |
Well done on a very good poem, with lots of colourful pictures painted. I can however give you the answer regarding dietitian, being one myself. In America the preferred spelling is with a t, and in England it is with a c - but in both cases it is tian not tion. |
Thanks Jean Written by Brett (731 comments posted) 25th February 2008 |
Thank you for clearing that up, Jean. I have now ammended that egregious error. Please don't take the line regarding dieticians personally. Cheers Brett |
Written by fellpony (1580 comments posted) 26th February 2008 |
How good to see someone try a difficult and structured form and use such powerful word associations. I really enjoyed the alliterations and your use of metaphor. (... mottled mirth, The maids who serve up candour and cool beer) - and your self discipline in not overdoing either. I think I too would prefer cheese and ale to "wine and cheese". It's probably something genetic  |
Too kind Written by Brett (731 comments posted) 26th February 2008 |
Your comments are too kind by far. But I loved them. Yes, I never have wine with cheese, port certainly, tawny port definitely. Theakston's Old Peculiar is nice with Applewood. Cheers, Fellpony, we really must discuss cheese and its finest compliments one day. Is there such a word as fromagophile? If not why not? Thanks again Brett |
Written by fellpony (1580 comments posted) 26th February 2008 |
| Wensleydale, Lancashire or Cheshire cheeses are also excellent with apple pie or (my favourite) with a seriously strong fruit cake. |
Poetry and humour Written by Bagheera (680 comments posted) 26th February 2008 |
........... excellent bedfellows, IMHO!! The same applies to cheese and ale Reminds me of a 'special' strong cheese I enjoyed in Denmark, called "Gamle Ole" ["gammel" = "old"] You're supposed to wrap it in muslin when you get home from the shop, put it in a tin box, and BURY it at the end of the garden for AT LEAST 2 weeks before testing to see if it's "ready to eat" ......... Served on crispbread, with a dollop of STRAWBERRY JAM on top |
From Fromagophile To Fellpony Written by Brett (731 comments posted) 26th February 2008 |
Chhese and cake. I would never have even dreamed of that. Difference in the sexes maybe? Then again I know a girl who swears by cheese and tuna. Wensleydale goes great with an apple and cider chutney. Let's forget all this writing nonsense and initiate a fromage forum. Regards Brett |
Bagheera and cheese perversions Written by Brett (731 comments posted) 26th February 2008 |
Thanks Bagheera, but I don't know what IMHO means. You have intrigued me. A cheese that you have to mummify, enclose in tine, and then bury in the garden (does it have to be the END of the garden for the pixies to mature?) and then wait a fortnight to see if you can have cheesy mash? That's borderline perverse. I'm not surprised you termed it 'special'. Please try to find the name of it I am fascinated. A friend of mine purchased some black cheese from a market in York, I think, and he swears it was that potent that he suffered an hallucinogenic fever. Understandibly he can't recall the name of that one. Cheers Bagheera Brett |
Cheese and cake. Written by fellpony (1580 comments posted) 27th February 2008 |
"Chhese and cake. I would never have even dreamed of that. " Nay, mebbe not, but tha's not a Northern lad, is ta? Christmas cake isna correctly served wi'out Wensleydale! It's nowt to do wi' gender! |
Go For IT! Written by TomOBrien (65 comments posted) 7th March 2008 |
OH YEAH BABBY! BRING IT! I would have included a good rare steak as well but you did just fine my friend. "Johnny fell down, after only fifteen The doctor looked him over and said Ya' better call the hearse But it's not what you're thinkin' It wasn't the drinkin' This man died of thirst (while waiting for his pint.) |
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