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By Josie
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29 February 2008 |
No comment except to say that I'm not really a pirate poet. ha ha I only copy "style" and that is legally permitted.
From the Pirates of Penzance
A rollicking band of pirates we,
Who, tired of tossing on the sea,
Are trying their hand at a burglaree,
With weapons grim and gory. |
A dangerous pirate – yes, that’s me
Who, finally bored with my life at sea,
Has now turned my hand to poetry
With weapons of pen and paper.
I scour the books and the internet
For it’s others’ work I want to get.
Look on me now as the ultimate threat
With weapons of pen and paper.
I’ll boldly take your verse and rhyme
Then wickedly claim that they are mine
I’ll snatch your poems, then redesign -
With weapons of pen and paper.
Chorus:
Oh, ho ho, ho ho, ho ho,
It’s a pirating I will go
So watch out me lads
With your poems and fags
For a pirating I will go.
Copyright 2008
www.whiteheadm.co.uk |
Written by maipenrai (780 comments posted) 29th February 2008 | could bemore than a little truth in this.
enjoyed it.
Bernie | No truth relating to me
Written by Josie (2496 comments posted) 29th February 2008 | | Hi Bernie - There's no truth in it relating to me. I love composing my own poems and don't want anyone else's. But it's good to follow the rhythm and style of another's poems, and if you read what Fellpony says in the Poets' Tavern, you will see that she recommends that you read and follow as much of others' poetry as you can. I recommend this too, especially the great masters such as Gilbert and Sullivan such as I have done. Great fun. Sir Nigel has done the same lower down on this page. Do see that too. BUT; Copying someone's exact words, word for word is plagerism and not recommended. It's a good idea to copyright your own work anyway. |
Written by fellpony (1507 comments posted) 29th February 2008 | Some minor corrections to Josie's remarks, for Bernie: it was Gilbert who wrote the lyrics which Josie is parodying (Sullivan set them to music). She's right that copying other people's work is usually plagiarism, but there is no copyright on forms or ideas. I have parodied Gilbertian lyrics myself, both here and elsewhere at various times over the years. And copyright on your own work exists whether you claim it or not, so no copyright statement is needed.
Josie: Your parody would match Gilbert's metre more closely if you dropped "my" out of the line "With my weapons of pen and paper". | Thanks Sue
Written by Josie (2496 comments posted) 29th February 2008 | | Thanks for your correction fellpony and for your addition to what I said. You were absolutely right about dropping "my". It is much better, and, thankfully takes your mind off "me" as actually being a pirate. ha ha. Well done. It is easy to see if anyone has copied your work actually as you only need to put part of your work on Google and he will take you to exactly where your words are, if you put them on the internet, and if they are shown under someone else's name, well - TROUBLE. You can quickly discover if someone has even used a specially nice phrase which you have used in your own work. Quite easy. But I don't think a "nice phrase" in another sentence could be classed as plagiarism, but I am not an expert. |
Written by Phil (6383 comments posted) 1st March 2008 | Not that familiar with G&S - but of course have heard many of their pieces.
I think copying or using an existing form is a fine poetic tradition. Long may it last.
Phil | After thought
Written by Phil (6383 comments posted) 1st March 2008 | It occurs that here on GW it is those who do not use established forms who write the most bilge. Form are there to be adapted, twisted, possibly even suspended - but not ignored.
Phil | Hi Josie
Written by audrie (444 comments posted) 1st March 2008 | So you are back! haven't logged on for ages so didn't know.
I'm glad you put this one on, as I told you I think it really good. I wonder if anyone is blushing?? Ha Ha!
Will email you to hear about the hols. | Thanks
Written by Josie (2496 comments posted) 1st March 2008 | Thanks everyone for your reviews. I try to encourage children to copy the simple style of some of my children's poems, to encourage them to write. Another Gilbert and Sullivan style of poem I copied was my poem called "The Insomniac Poet",
(http://www.whiteheadm.co.uk/html/insomniac.html#insomniac)
and you may remember the G & S words: "Lying awake with a dismal headache". Great fun, and I think G & S would like it too. |
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