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Watching Ashes Drift On
By NathanRoberts
25 June 2008

Note: this version is a substantial edit of the previous posting to which the comment s below apply.  Most of the edits were based on those very helpful comments.  Thanks again.






the Dart,
twenty years downstream
from family days.
Deep enough for two boys to
dive into, oblivious of
undercurrent,
safe beneath the silt.
Mum and Dad,
on that rug, lying
amongst the cross patterns of it's bind.
Duties done,
father disappears
behind sunday supplements,
or boards a reed boat -
escapes the surface eddies
on a separate tributary to the sea.
Avoiding herself,
mother sorts the cellophaned food,
dividing sealed portions;
hiding shadows from the sun.
'You can leave now,' she says,
'I understand. It's okay.'
The movement stagnates
in these pools.
But, if you like, stay.
Join me here, waiting;
as water flows around the residue,
the remains, washed up by the swell,
the wake of suicide.
It never stops, as you know,
and soon enough, soon enough,
we'll be carried off like her dust:
brown, muted, waterlogged,
until all that's left is the tide,
the ambivalent flow of the Dart.

Reviews

Written by Veronica_Milvus (637 comments posted) 25th June 2008
Is this in any way a True Story? 
 
If so, then it must have been painful to write, however long ago. 
 
Have you read Alice Oswald's long poem "Dart"? I love it, it follows the river from its source to the sea. Less dark than your version, though. 
 
Well written and full of poignant images, like the sunday supplements and the picnic food. It is these touches that make disaster all the more moving.

Written by Phil (6730 comments posted) 25th June 2008
I like this very much. No pun, but I thought the flow of the piece was very good. The little scenes that are presented blend well and build to the end. As above - the common place images of Sunday paper ground this but give it power. 
 
I remember the first; this is quite different in tone and effect. 
 
Good stuff. 
 
Phil

Written by gutterkitty (362 comments posted) 26th June 2008
Not as much of a fan I'm afraid. I feel like you could take out the introductory section and begin the piece at "The Dart..."- if a metaphor needs explaining within the poem, chances are it's not a great metaphor. I feel the wording was a bit too "technical" in places (air sealed portions, degenerates)- but that might be something to with your emotional distance. And a final niggle, you don't need the apostrophe in "it's bind". 
Saying that I do actually like the metaphor and you make the short lines work, which can be really difficult. I just don't like it as much as some of your other (very good) work.
Thanks all!
Written by NathanRoberts (277 comments posted) 26th June 2008
VM: Yes, true story I'm afraid. Of course you never fully recover from something like that - it's a cut off point of before and after which colours your entire life. It is difficult to write about, but pretty much impossible not to approach at some point. 
 
'Have you read Alice Oswald's long poem "Dart"?' Yes, or rather, I'm in the process of reading it. I don't usually do long poems, but as Dartmoor is possibly my favourite place in the world I made an exception. I wasn't influenced by it in any way, though I am quite enjoying it. 
 
Phil: 'I remember the first; this is quite different in tone and effect.'. Yes, I've perhaps overemphasised the darker aspects of those family scenes...in reality they are fond memories (as the original drafting suggested) but the 'undercurrent' of the failing marriage (which ultimately contributed to my mother's depression and eventual suicide) couldn't be ignored from the adult perspective and the blending of the two time zones. Thanks again for your help...it's also a good example of why critical reviews are so important. 
 
 
GK: You've mirrored my own thoughts about it almost perfectly. I thought long and hard about the 'fade in' before 'the Dart'. It breaks the cardinal rule of 'show don't tell', but for some reason I kept leaving it in. I think you're right...the poem is pushing readers away then pulling them back. Perhaps it was subconscious, and echoes the fact that in many ways I've shut off that emotional part of myself (the only way you can continue sometimes - 'air sealed portions').  
 
The 'technical' words, the mention of the metaphor are all distancing the reader, whereas some of the other scenes (which do 'show', I think) are trying to draw them in. This probably makes for an unsatisfying experience for the reader. This was a strange semi conscious experience - not an enjoyable poem to work on. I can't even say it was carthartic, as I'm so disastisfied with the end results. I kept thinking of your poem 'daddy' which dealt with painful memories in such a brilliant way. Perhaps I was trying to put too much into one poem, the two scenes/times, contrasting the adult and child perspective then the distance of the self reflexivity (if that's the right word for a poem that talks about it's own process). 
 
Oh, and thanks about the 'it's'. I didn't know that...thought the bind belonged to the rug and hence the apostrophe, but basic grammar has always eluded me (I don't recall ever being taught it at school...I even had to learn the alphabet in my own time!). 
 
 
Cheers all.  

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