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By Katanga
03 July 2008
Just for fun - I am amazed that in the five hundred-odd years since 'heliocentricity' was proved, we still talk about the sun rising, sinking and setting. It goes to show, I think, that living language reflects how we perceive things, not what we know to be true.

This 'double-poem' is trying to ilustrate the point - if poetry reflected what we 'know', as opposed to what we perceive and feel, then God help us!

Comments welcome as ever!

Cheers!

Jaunty John X

De Revolutionibus Orbium Coelestium

by Nicolaus Copernicus



I loved you when the sun came up,
I still love you now.
I’ll love you when the sun goes down
I'll love you anyhow.


-------------------------------------------------


My neurological chemistry
began to start a riot
as Earth spun towards the sun
much to my disquiet.

In present time I feel the same
and think about our future.
Will my neurons be simply tame
or will I need a suture?

My neurological chemistry
will still be running riot,
when we spin away from the sun,
much again to my disquiet.

Reviews

Written by Josie (2945 comments posted) 4th July 2008
I loved you when the moon shone east and I loved you when it was in the west. The funny thing is that the moon is at the back of our house when I go to bed and the front in the morning, so the house has turned round completely and I too. Whilst I was sleeping, my bed was moving, but I felt nothing. How deceptive is that? Well put John. I liked the way you said these things John, especially the last verse.

Written by NathanRoberts (277 comments posted) 4th July 2008
'living language reflects how we perceive things, not what we know to be true.' 
 
I think there's enough in there to inspire a whole collection of poems.  
 
To put it in dry philosophical terms: what is the relation between subjective/internal perception, thought, feeling, emotion; intersubjective language and cultural worldviews; and the objective/ exterior world? 
 
'if poetry reflected what we 'know', as opposed to what we perceive and feel, then God help us!' 
 
...also raises the problem of 'knowledge'. I think I 'know' what you're saying: empirical scientific observation as opposed to subjective, emotional experience.  
 
It reminds me of that great line in the film 'Contact', where the religious guy asks the scientist if she loves her father, to which she answers 'yes, of course' (she 'knows' she loves him).  
 
'Prove it', he replies. 
Thanks Both!
Written by Katanga (1698 comments posted) 4th July 2008
Josie - love your comments on the moon! I'm sure your idea would make an excellent poem - fancy a shot at it? 
 
Rob - thank you for your kind and considered thoughts and, yes, you get my drift entirely! 
 
Love your thing about the religious guy and the scientist - there's a lot to ponder in that little gem! 
 
Cheers Both! 
 
John

Written by Veronica_Milvus (794 comments posted) 4th July 2008
The rhyming of "future" with "suture" was inspired. Some great ideas expressed, and the title is to die for. 
 
Very deep, this one, and also the comments on it so far!
Hi John
Written by jean.day (2453 comments posted) 5th July 2008
These poems were such fun. The first one - appealing to the emotions and the second one - to the brain - and because of the contast, it was also very funny.
Thanks Jean!
Written by Katanga (1698 comments posted) 5th July 2008
Hello Jean! 
 
I am really chuffed that you've reviewed me - really! 
 
Glad you saw the joke - I'm never really that serious! 
 
In the end, comedy wins over tragedy, in my humble opinion! Well, maybe that's just because I'm feeling jolly at the mo? 
 
I shall delve into you own writings a.s.a.p. 
 
Cheers! 
 
John X

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