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Written by Phil (8763 comments posted) 20th August 2008 |
Teaching - money for old rope.
Phil |
Old rope
Written by MattHews (215 comments posted) 20th August 2008 |
| Old rope can be rough on the hands, Phil! |
Written by Fledermaus (4146 comments posted) 20th August 2008 |
Good poem. seems your English teacher did his job well. Good rhyme, nice flow...
If someone doesn't pay attention in school and ends up in the gutter than that's no one's fault but his own. Aesop's story about the cricket and the ants... The cricket spent all summer fiddling and making fun of the hardworking ants? Fine, but in winter he died, while the ants had food and shelter...
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Teachers
Written by meadowcroft1964 (244 comments posted) 20th August 2008 |
| Fledermaus there is some truth in your review that perhaps it only the lazy who fail at school . It also true that there are many such as myself who fail through either family circumstances or because they don't fit the normal pattern education could do more to cater to the individual in my opinion |
Written by Fledermaus (4146 comments posted) 20th August 2008 |
Hi meadowcroft.
Just after posting that review, I realized it could be interpreted like that: That's not what I meant though. If someone doesn't have the opportunity to study or if someone's talents are in a different field, it's quite another story, yet if someone does get chances yet refuses to take them, then they are like Aesop's cricket. |
Teachers
Written by Brett (2419 comments posted) 20th August 2008 |
As soon as I left school I never looked forward (to paraphrase Jeffrey Bernard) I was quite happy to reach for the gutter and not look at the stars - but I found drunks, gamblers, rogues, prostitutes and bastards taught me more than my formal education; and I also mean literally about literature. I had one decent English teacher, but the drunk who introduced me to Henry V, not to mention Dylan Thomas and the Goon Show will always be a ghost hovering over my CV.
Cheers
Sorry I didn't say anything about the poem - point well made. |
Poetry?
Written by Katanga (4169 comments posted) 20th August 2008 |
Yes, and of a different kind . . .
I think we need more of this from you, Malcolm!
Not my usual cup of tea, but all the better for that!
Political points well made, in a unique way.
Cheers!
John X |
Written by Phil (8763 comments posted) 20th August 2008 |
I know.
Phil |
Written by Veronica_Milvus (1147 comments posted) 20th August 2008 |
You lot are so tough. If I hadn't been failed by an inadquate teacher, I would be a consultant surgeon now.
And I wasn't lazy.
So Malcolm, I am not so sure of your sarcastic tone with this one. |
Nor am I . . .
Written by Katanga (4169 comments posted) 20th August 2008 |
. . . sure of your sarcastic tone.
I like the piece, but where is your real point?
Yo!
John |
Written by Robru (319 comments posted) 20th August 2008 |
A bloody good poem. The subject matter is quite controversial, judgeing from the preceding comments. Herewith is my tuppence worth: teachers are born not made - too many who collect salaries as teachers are only tellers. They 'tell' the students, not' teach' them.
A teacher can show "why", a "teller" can't.
Having said all that I now say that formal education only gives a student the tools to learn. Real education starts when the student has completed his/her structured education.
That might put the cat among the pidgeons.
Cheers
Bob. |
Written by mia_ms_kim (1057 comments posted) 20th August 2008 |
I thought this was very funny and witty, but I wonder if I would find it funny if I was a teacher??? I think teachers are like any other professionals. There are some exceptional teachers, some terrible teachers, and many who do their jobs ok. And I can't blame teachers for turning out less than productive members of the society. Most of the time, I think the problem originates from home. That's my 2c worth.
Mia  |
Surely you mean...
Written by Talisker (1367 comments posted) 21st August 2008 |
Edutainment! Edutainment! Edutainment!
Pedagogues must be getting something right if 99.9999% of brats pass their sats and 99.99999999999999% get A grades in their GCEs and A-levels.
Interesting piece.
Oli  |
My response
Written by MattHews (215 comments posted) 21st August 2008 |
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My response continued!
Written by MattHews (215 comments posted) 21st August 2008 |
Thanks to all for your diverse views,
Healthy controversy is always good news!
Now, I don't wish to give offence
Or be sarcastic at teachers' expense.
No, Talisker, I don't give much credence
To SATS or league tables -
I think they're sadly sexed-up fables,
And I don't like facile political lies -
It's with teachers and pupils I sympathise;
Teachers, poorly trained, overworked, underpaid,
Abused and misused,
And kids who will never make the grade.
It's the system and ethos that sorely fails,
Political meddling and the mess it entails. |
My response continued!
Written by MattHews (215 comments posted) 21st August 2008 |
Thanks to all for your diverse views,
Healthy controversy is always good news!
Now, I don't wish to give offence
Or be sarcastic at teachers' expense.
No, Talisker, I don't give much credence
To SATS or league tables -
I think they're sadly sexed-up fables,
And I don't like facile political lies -
It's with teachers and pupils I sympathise;
Teachers, poorly trained, overworked, underpaid,
Abused and misused,
And kids who will never make the grade.
It's the system and ethos that sorely fails,
Political meddling and the mess it entails. |
My response continued!
Written by MattHews (215 comments posted) 21st August 2008 |
Thanks to all for your diverse views,
Healthy controversy is always good news!
Now, I don't wish to give offence
Or be sarcastic at teachers' expense.
No, Talisker, I don't give much credence
To SATS or league tables -
I think they're sadly sexed-up fables,
And I don't like facile political lies -
It's with teachers and pupils I sympathise;
Teachers, poorly trained, overworked, underpaid,
Abused and misused,
And kids who will never make the grade.
It's the system and ethos that sorely fails,
Political meddling and the mess it entails. |
My response continued!
Written by MattHews (215 comments posted) 21st August 2008 |
Thanks to all for your diverse views,
Healthy controversy is always good news!
Now, I don't wish to give offence
Or be sarcastic at teachers' expense.
No, Talisker, I don't give much credence
To SATS or league tables -
I think they're sadly sexed-up fables,
And I don't like facile political lies -
It's with teachers and pupils I sympathise;
Teachers, poorly trained, overworked, underpaid,
Abused and misused,
And kids who will never make the grade.
It's the system and ethos that sorely fails,
Political meddling and the mess it entails. |
My response continued!
Written by MattHews (215 comments posted) 21st August 2008 |
Thanks to all for your diverse views,
Healthy controversy is always good news!
Now, I don't wish to give offence
Or be sarcastic at teachers' expense.
No, Talisker, I don't give much credence
To SATS or league tables -
I think they're sadly sexed-up fables,
And I don't like facile political lies -
It's with teachers and pupils I sympathise;
Teachers, poorly trained, overworked, underpaid,
Abused and misused,
And kids who will never make the grade.
It's the system and ethos that sorely fails,
Political meddling and the mess it entails. |
My response continued!
Written by MattHews (215 comments posted) 21st August 2008 |
Thanks to all for your diverse views,
Healthy controversy is always good news!
Now, I don't wish to give offence
Or be sarcastic at teachers' expense.
No, Talisker, I don't give much credence
To SATS or league tables -
I think they're sadly sexed-up fables,
And I don't like facile political lies -
It's with teachers and pupils I sympathise;
Teachers, poorly trained, overworked, underpaid,
Abused and misused,
And kids who will never make the grade.
It's the system and ethos that sorely fails,
Political meddling and the mess it entails. |
Okay!
Written by Katanga (4169 comments posted) 21st August 2008 |
Brilliant banter Malcolm, but please stop clicking!
Cheers!
John X |
Written by grace (298 comments posted) 21st August 2008 |
I believe that there are good and bad teachers and pupils, I also believe that bad experiences can ruin both. Like everything else these days, bureaucracy invades every corner of organisation, rarely to good effect.
I thought this was a valuable poem reflecting the way faults in a system provide excuses for those looking for someone to blame for their shortcomings. Positive leadership and a firm structure leave no room for that. IMHO.
Pamx |
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