Just for fun, and food for thought! 
Loose Bowel Poetry - Personal Opinion
GW Poetry seems to brimming with unending debate and controversy. So I thought I might contribute my 2c worth, just for the fun of it, as I look back on my experience on the site as a poetry ignoramus.
When I first joined GW, I thought poetry was basically prose divided up into nice blocks with some flowery words thrown in for visual effect. I’m happy to say, I no longer think so. And I’m sure that happiness (and relief) is shared by a few GW members, whom I’m sure I drove mad with my LBR (short for ‘Loose Bowel Review’) on many occasions. After hanging around GW for seven months, I believe I've developed 'eyes' to appreciate poetry a little better, and to my great surprise, it has enriched my life. (I’m generally fascinated by people’s minds, the more tormented and convoluted, the better. )
So I’ve definitely changed my mind about what is poetry and what is not, and what is good poetry and what is not, at least in my mind. I still claim my revered status of being an ignoramus in all matters poetic, so I can only offer my humble opinion using terms and references that I understand.
I find that poetry is a little like singing. I know when I hear someone who sings superbly even if their genre and style isn’t exactly to my taste. I know when a singer’s voice arrests me, I recognise the freedom with which they wield their vocal cord like a warrior would wield his sword. And I can only admire them and marvel at their unique gift.
Then there are people who can sing reasonably well, and indeed do so sincerely. I can see that they have worked hard at their chosen craft. I truly appreciate them, and moreover I can grasp what they are wanting to communicate in their songs. And I often discover nuggets of gold hidden in their art, that flow out at unexpected times with a strong current. It’s beautiful.
I am also acquainted with people who sing not so well—in fact, they sing rather poorly—but they really want to sing, and be heard on a very regular basis. They believe singing is their unique gift that they need to bestow upon other people, and take every opportunity to do exactly that.
Now, I am rated at around 85% by a Karioke machine when I sing. I even once achieved a dizzying height of 96% in one Karioke room, singing ‘Amazing Grace’ in hip contemporary modern style. And I almost burst with pride. However under no circumstances did I entertain the illusion that I sound somewhat like Celine Dion, or that Simon Calwell should quickly offer me a contract for his next recording project.
In fact, if someone like myself insists on inflicting their songs upon me regularly and unapologetically, then the kindest thing I can say to them might be one of the following:
1. Join a choir of approximately a thousand people.
2. Specialise in a different genre, eg. music from another culture more suitable to their range. (Ancient Korean music highly valued high-pitched screeching sustained over time.)
3. Dig deeper into their soul and find another ‘gift’ that doesn’t drive people to tear their hair out by the roots.
I believe people who are serious about their craft will seek honest critique. And the wise ones amongst us will hear it even from their enemies because our enemies will tell us the things we need to hear, that our friends won’t tell us. It takes maturity to give kind but truthful advice. It takes even greater maturity to receive it, and then still keep going. It takes deep passion and love of the art to persist with it, when there are a hundred and one reasons to give up.
I conclude with the advice of Henry van Dyke, that I take to heart with great comfort.
‘Use what talent you possess: the woods would be very silent if no birds sang except those that sang best.’
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Written by Phil (6959 comments posted) 28th August 2008 | Well written, interesting - and some words of wisdom. Well done, Mia. Phil | Entertaining Written by patterjack (1430 comments posted) 28th August 2008 | and thoughtful . Covers the area well . Well done Mia patterjack | Written by Bottleblondesurfer (3559 comments posted) 29th August 2008 | Yes certainly food for thought. I found it not only a fascinating piece but well judged and [unlike so many pieces about the site] even handed and intelligent. I liked the analogy with singing, except that you can improve your writing by doing lots of it,unlike singing. But I do accept that those with real talent will always be better; though I do like the theme that we all have our voice and add to the "music" of literature. Let's hope this encourages people to get involved with reviewing which is the life blood of the site after all. I was very cheered by that last quote. Congratulations jane | I too liked Written by fellpony (1702 comments posted) 29th August 2008 | the analogy to singing, Mia - and I disagree (politely as always) with Jane when she wrote: "you can improve your writing by doing lots of it,unlike singing." Both arts can be improved by practice with tuition or advice from others. Example: I sing, my mother sings, my daughter sings - we all can carry a tune, have pleasant voices and can use them to make an acceptable noise. But my mother, who had years of choral experience and of tuition with an operatic teacher, sings better than I do, and I who was taught in an excellent choir and had some stage tuition do not sing as well as she does, and my daughter who has only had school choral tuition does not sing as well as either of us. Merely "doing a lot of" something does not always improve its practice, I know people (men, usually) who have driven or worked with horses all their lives and are still doing things in a dangerous or cruel manner which a small amount of thoughtful tuition would have changed. And we all know people who passed their driving tests years ago yet are a menace on the road ... | PS Written by fellpony (1702 comments posted) 29th August 2008 | | I forgot to admit that the tone deaf are probably beyond help with singing. I think there's another analogy there but am not going to pursue it! | withdraw Written by Bottleblondesurfer (3559 comments posted) 29th August 2008 | Unfortunately we are unable to delete reviews so in the light of Sue's correction I withdraw my comments..It was only my opinion. perhaps we should just comment on the post and leave others to their opinions as this is not the case I withdraw my comments jane | Mia you are sagacious! Written by Brett (982 comments posted) 29th August 2008 | This is a highly intelligent and perceptive piece of writing. Everyone who regularly uses the poetry forum should read this, and heed what is said (readers, too, not just those who post). I also enjoyed the Henry van Dyke quote. Well said. Cheers | Written by mia_ms_kim (1057 comments posted) 29th August 2008 | Thank you, Phil, pj, Jane, fp and Brett, for your reviews. No need to withdraw your comments, Jane. I agree writing improves with practice as with any other endeavours, and those born with great talent will probably do much better. I heard that Shiva Ryu (an infleuntial Korean poet) reads aloud his poems at least 1000 times before he is finished with them. So behind his influence is such hard work. (Poets do become bestsellers and acquire great influence in Korea because I think they looked upon as thinkers and interpreters of life.) I must agree that there are tone-deaf people, Fellpony. An elderly Korean woman I know, mastered just ONE tune in her life time - an old Korean dirge sung with just 5 minor keys, and she sings everything with that tune - everything! And everyone loves her. (I'm sure it would be another matter if she insists on holding weekly concerts.) I had to look up what 'sagacious' meant, Brett! Thank you for the compliment! Despite the arguments on GW, I do see people developing in their craft across the forum. I won't name names, but some have improved so much, I'm just amazed. Thank you again, everyone! Mia | Mia Written by meadowcroft1964 (112 comments posted) 29th August 2008 | | You process a wisdom far exceeding your tender years. | Written by mia_ms_kim (1057 comments posted) 31st August 2008 | Thank you, Voilet, for your compliment. My problem, however, is practicing what I preach! I don't like receiving honest advices from friends or foes, and I often feel like throwing back my enemies' advice right back in their face with a few extra toppings! But I have to admit, much of what they said, especially my enemies, was right on the money. And I'm no tender spring chicken, more like a borderline hen. Mia | Written by Fledermaus (3482 comments posted) 1st September 2008 | And there are those whose talent is like an unpolished gem: On the outside it looks like just another dirty rock, but with a lot of work it could be shaped into jewelry. If one never tries, one might never know... Which is why I decided to sign up for a dance course today :-P | Dance class, FM??? Written by mia_ms_kim (1057 comments posted) 1st September 2008 | I should book myself into something like that. Do you know of any virtual dance cource, FM? And I agree about unpolished gems, FM. We just don't know who will surprise us all. Maybe we will see you on the Dutch version of 'So you think you can dance?' show??? (How are we going to know it's you though???) Mia |
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