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Wondering Written by fellpony (1749 comments posted) 1st October 2008 |
who the author of the "novelettes" might be! Is there a typo in the last line, where "that" is repeated? But that apart, this is a smooth piece of writing and one that rewards re-reading. |
Written by Brett (1001 comments posted) 1st October 2008 |
Agree with Sue, this is a fine piece of writing, Brian. Due to recent corresponence you know that I know who you are acknowledging. I am only familiar with a handful of his poems, I've always enjoyed 'Bagpipe Music', but your obvious enthusiasm for his work has convinced me to purchase a collection. You use some great language here - I love the alliteration of 'maudlin madrigal' and was 'lowering clouds' a conscious nod to Shakespeare? '...caged forever within the netted sunlight' - what a phrase. With sue again, this deserves many revisits. Cheers |
Garden Sunlight Written by patterjack (1435 comments posted) 1st October 2008 |
Thanks Sue , for picking up the typo-- I am usually better than that ! MacNeice is the poet -- and in the collection which I have there are some poems grouped as novelettes[/] of which a couple have always had a strong effect on me. I have taken up with Louis before-- [I]Bagpipe Music is one derivative from him , and one of the Wheel of Love series. I regularly go back to Autumn Journal and to Window Seat , Sunday Morning and The Sunlight on the Garden , hence the derivative lines . Thanks for the review patterjack
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Lines lifted Written by patterjack (1435 comments posted) 1st October 2008 |
Thanks Brett for the comments. maudlin madrigal are words straight out of Autumn Journal and are used ironically by M when he goes on to write one that I quote often . I have carried his sunlight on the garden image over and added an aspect. Influenced , I trust , but not plagiarising No conscious Shakespeare references. patterjack |
Richard III Written by Brett (1001 comments posted) 1st October 2008 |
was brought to mind, Brian - 'all the clouds that lowered..' I shall look into purchasing some MacNeice. Cheers |
As above . . . Written by Katanga (1537 comments posted) 1st October 2008 |
. . . I am in awe of this. As already highlighted, your last three lines are breathtaking - 'netted sunlight' is a triumph! Your piece here makes me realise that I must read and learn more, and write less! Cheers! John |
The more I read this... Written by ainsel (68 comments posted) 1st October 2008 |
...the more I find myself entering into the garden. It's a beautiful piece of work, and reads aloud very well indeed. In your message, you mentioned the time scale. I'm intrigued because the poem does have a strong flavour of time past, lost but still retained; of the golden moment lasting forever and yet long vanished. Am I on the right wavelength? ainsel
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Thanks Brett Written by patterjack (1435 comments posted) 1st October 2008 |
Missed the Richard reference. Yep , Louis may not be the greatest poet of all time , but he is one who speaks to me more than most. Worth reading and re-reading for an adolescent child of the late thirties. as i was , and still am . patterjack |
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Time parallels and overlaps Written by patterjack (1435 comments posted) 1st October 2008 |
To explain , ainsel , MacNeice was writing before I myself came to poetry reading -- and it was not until WW2 was over that I , by now at university , was reading his prewar and wartime poems . The Maspaundays were , with Eliot , a big influence , and MacNeice and the early Auden made lasting impressions on me. So he caught me in a way that brings back both his own past times and mine as they overlapped. Thanks for this comment -- I hope my explanation makes sense. patterjack |
lol Katanga Written by patterjack (1435 comments posted) 1st October 2008 |
I too would like to read and learn more -- and probably write less-- but there are modernist poets and poetasters that I find out of synch with my thinking and style, no matter how hard I try. And I freely admit to lifting the idea and tone of this piece from MacNeice - in sincere admiration and in a forgivable way , I hope . patterjack |
Hello Brian, Written by audrie (454 comments posted) 2nd October 2008 |
I'm back again. Thank you for missing me last time! I've never heard of MacNeice, but that is the beauty of this site, it teaches you a lot and spurs you on to look up the poet who is admired. Lovely nostalgic poem, I too, really loved the 'netted sunlight'. In fact, the last two lines were pretty nigh on perfect. You certainly have a way with words. Excellent. |
Written by Phil (6997 comments posted) 2nd October 2008 |
Lovely reflective piece, Brian. Lots already been commented on - but I find I've still something fresh to say - for once!. (I just hope I'm not off whack.) In agreement with all above - but also - I thought the use of seasons, references to sunlight and clouds all built a gentle feeling of time passing within verses and over the piece as a whole - a real journey from start to finish. That's one reason why I felt it was such a successful piece. Phil |
Welcome once more audrie Written by patterjack (1435 comments posted) 2nd October 2008 |
I cannot truly claim credit for the netted sunlight image-- It is basically MacNeice's. I hope my own nostalgia came through satisfactorily in the rest of the work. Thank you -- I appreciate your appreciation patterjack
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Seasons and time Written by patterjack (1435 comments posted) 2nd October 2008 |
Yes Phil, it is decidedly autumnal in its thinking -- and I am glad the time sequences worked for you. Appreciated your comment ! patterjack |
Written by Bottleblondesurfer (3590 comments posted) 3rd October 2008 |
Loved the title. I remember commenting on another poem that it was so great to read someone in full flow about something they were passionate about and it is the same here. You somehow share vicariously in the enjoyment, even if you are not all that familiar with the person, which isn't really as odd as it sounds. It has certainly made me curious to know a bit more about someone who can inspire such wonderful phrases. That passion gives the piece a heart and life that makes it more than just a collection of beautifully expressed phrases. The one that really spoke to me was "and I am caged forever within the netted sunlight" not sure exactly why but it does seem a rather exquisite thing to be caged by. An uplifting experience jane
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Cage Written by patterjack (1435 comments posted) 3rd October 2008 |
First two lines of the M poem were what I stole -- transposing a little. I come back to often too , to Autumn Journal -- dated perhaps , but with much of my own philosophical attitudes there . Thanks for the review Jane . patterjack |
Written by brook_rivers (486 comments posted) 16th October 2008 |
| Beautiful poem, I especially like the ending. There is so much meaning and emotion behind these words - just what good poetry should be! |
Thanks Brook Written by patterjack (1435 comments posted) 16th October 2008 |
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