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The lady and the monk
By Fledermaus
04 October 2008
Just an attempt at writing something with a female narrator. I'm afraid she's a bit too modern for the setting though. Any tips on writing a medieval lady?

The sound of her bare feet upon the wet stones was soft and light, but the pace was faster than her normal stride would be. I knew that, as always, she tried to walk with dignity and moreover she would be careful not to slip. What an embarrassment it'd be for such an ambitious young woman to stumble and fall in the presence of her lady.

She halted at the rim of the pool, politely waiting for me to notice and address her. The girl played her role well, but I closed my eyes and pretended I had not heard her. This maiden deserved a little embarrassment. Did she truly think that a noble woman would not be aware of the games played amongst servants? They were as good at plotting and backstabbing as knights and barons...

" My lady," she eventually muttered.

I blinked and looked at the ceiling. Nowadays they called these round curves old-fashioned. Modern buildings had to be light and pointy, wildly decorated with statues and flowers. Yet my castle had no lancets or flamboyant arcs, nor were there carved saints at every corner. They could call me conservative, but I preferred to call it decent.

" My lady," she said once again, a bit louder this time.

I turned towards her.

" Yes?"

" There is a friar from Saintswood Abbey here who desires to speak to you."

" A friar? Show him in."

" But my lady..."

" Send him in."

" Yes, my lady."

I could sense the judgement behind her mask of dignity and loyalty. She disapproved and was furious about her position. Had the roles been reversed she would have trampled on me, just as she did with the other girls.

I heard her talk to the friar and soon I heard how he entered. So he had not even bothered to take off his sandals...

As he approached me, he seemed very interested in the ceiling too.

" Careful friar. The ground is slippery and you don't want to get wet."

" This is a most inappropriate place to receive a man of God, lady Lieve."

" I didn't ask for your visit, fair friar, but I could not let a servant of the church wait, could I?"

" Would you please put some clothes on?"

" Surely a man of the church is not disturbed by a look at the Lord's own creation?"

" Don't try to tempt me... You know as well as I that if Eve had not seduced Adam, we might still be in paradise."

" I'm not seducing you, and surely you will have no sinful desires or lust."

" A woman should cover her body in the presence of a man."

" If it makes you feel uncomfortable, why don't you just say so? I can understand that a man may have feelings he cannot suppress, though I expected better from a friar."

" I did not come to play games, dear lady. It's rather that I have a message from the abbot concerning your husband's lands."

" Of which I am in charge now."

" Since he is on a holy quest it is desirable that the church should take care of his property."

" It is more appropriate that it's looked after by his wife."

" It's too great a responsibility to leave it to an inexperienced woman."

" That was the message then?"

" The abbot wishes to have an audience this afternoon. I'd suggest that you receive him in another room though."

" He has been a monk much longer than you are, young man. If even he could not control his lust at the sight of a woman, then what good is your monastery? You should be considering less earthly things."

" Be careful, lady..."

" I have done nothing wrong friar. Tell your abbot that I shall receive him this afternoon between the afternoon prayer and Vespers."

" Very well. Good day, my lady."

" And a good day to you as well, fair friar."

I leant back and looked at the arches above me. The world was changing too fast and seemed to turn ever stranger. The commandments clearly stated that 'thou shalt not murder', yet the holy church had called on the men to take up the sword.

Delivery of sins by committing them. Detachment from the earthly by taking the wealth and lands of others. Being without lust, yet fearing the sight of a naked woman... Perhaps the maid was better prepared for this world than I was.

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Written by bluecity (432 comments posted) 4th October 2008
Hello Ron. 
 
I think you got into your female voice very well. If you want to develop your medieval lady writing skills, I suggest you read Ellis Peters' Cadfael stories. Cadfael is a monk, but Ellis herself is female and so are a lot of her characters. 
 
You developed your mc's character very well, but you should have given her a name. All characters should be named, IMO. However, the beginning was also too focussed on the servant girl. The mc should be the first to appear. 
 
Moreover, mc was too deferential to the friar. She wasn't going to keep the church waiting? Noble ladies were aware of their position, which was well above a mere friar. 
 
I loved the idea of her nakedness. I don't think that happened in the age of chivalry. A nun's habit actually mirrors women's clothing during the High Middle Ages. Was she supposed to be in the bath?  
 
The story worked very well. You laid your clues and followed them up... which appears to be quite rare in the sort of stories I'm reading online these days! 
 
Well done. 
 
Rosemary 
Hi Ron
Written by jean.day (2387 comments posted) 5th October 2008
I too enjoyed reading this very much. I thought the voice of your noble lady was fine. as far as being appropriate for that period of time, who knows? There must have been some gutsy women in those days who might not have been in any way like the ordinary. 
 
I liked the way she played with the friar. Poor men, so weak that they can't control their lust. And then to blame women for tempting them.  
 
One spag - you said in appropriate as two words.  
 
I too, like characters to be named, but it doesn't spoil the story that they weren't.

Written by Fledermaus (3506 comments posted) 5th October 2008
Thanks Rosemary and Jean. 
Rosemary: Oh, I absolutely love Ellis Peter's books. There are several of them on my bookshelf. 
I did give the lady a name (Lieve), but it was mentioned only once. Somehow I do have a bit of a problem naming characters, especially since once they're named, there's no way back. 
From what I read, I understood that the High Middle Ages were far from the prudish image we're often presented. It'd be nice if I could find out more about everyday medieval life, so I could turn that view upside down, for apparently much of what is presented as medieval was in fact something of later ages (witch hunts, a fear of bathing, pandemics)... 
I guess that'll be a new field of research then, as so far I focussed on the Dark Ages. 
 
Jean: I'm not sure how far people'd go in questioning the church back then. Indeed especially in that age, women seemed to enjoy a lot of status. The men were away on crusade and moreover those that came back had learned manners from the Saracens. It's striking how much of the late medieval culture was in fact copied from the Middle East.

Written by Bottleblondesurfer (3590 comments posted) 5th October 2008
I thought this was an interesting and ambitious piece. I liked the way you introduced it with the lady describing the servant. 
I found this relationship far more interesting and engaging than the power play with the friar. Her thought that maybe with all her power and privilege she was not as well equipped for the world as the servant was a fascinating one. 
This aspect of the story held the theme and was where the originality lay.  
The stuff with the Friar was fine, though I can't think of an era in history where a lady of rank would receive anyone [especially the clergy] naked. Having said that it did raise some interesting points [though I think they could have been made in other scenarios- I just didn't buy into that scenario] I liked the way you returned to the situation with the servant at the end. It's always satisfying to see a set-up paid off.  
I think you were successful in using the female narrator. I believed in her. I'm sure a male wouldn't have given a seconds thought to the servant. That aspect was far more engaging that the interview. 
I thought the language a bit anachronistic in parts. I think you need to stay faithful to that mannered medieval style or just ignore it altogether and just have them speaking normally, after all is was normal to them. 
Very impressive effort 
jane

Written by Veronica_Milvus (768 comments posted) 5th October 2008
I agree with blucity that a couple of lines up front, establishing the narrator and having her sploshing around in the scented water would have made the scene easier to imagine. 
 
However I also agree with all the other comments that this is an authentic-sounding voice and that Her Ladyship seems like a formidable character. I hope we hear what happens next. 
 
V

Written by Fledermaus (3506 comments posted) 5th October 2008
Thanks Jane and Veronica. 
Jane: I felt that indeed the entrance of the friar was a bit of a break in the story, yet funnily enough that was the main idea I started out with. This was mainly to try writing a female character in first person. 
Indeed the language was one of the things I wondered about and the situation itself might be a bit strange too. On the other hand I often get the impression that medieval nobility were a bit eccentric anyhow. 
 
Veronica: Maybe when I've done a bit more research and I'm confident that I can write an extended story (and finish it), I will use her as a character for something bigger.

Written by bluecity (432 comments posted) 5th October 2008
One other point, Ron. The monk was actually a friar! There is a distinct difference. A monk lives in monastery away from the world, whereas a friar lives in the community and serves it. Maybe you should change your title. 
 
Research on medieval woman? You mean primary sources? I don't know. I would look at poetry, rather than historical chronicles, because chronicles tend to be all about war and heroics. 
 
Rosemary 
 
Friars and monks
Written by Fledermaus (3506 comments posted) 13th October 2008
Thanks again Rosemary. 
Gosh, I thought they were similar. Guess I have to do a bit more research then.

Written by Asferthecat (859 comments posted) 14th October 2008
I very much liked the power play between the lady and her high-class servant. 
I found it unbelievable that she would actually be naked. A friar would be almost as shocked to find her in an undershift. 
As always, a well written and interesting story.

Written by Lizzy (838 comments posted) 14th October 2008
Yes agree with many points already raised. I thought the voice of both the main character and servant were very good. I think you have a good basis for extending this, both MC and servant are very strong characters already and I would like to learn more about them. 
Lizzy

Written by Fledermaus (3506 comments posted) 15th October 2008
Thanks Asferthecat and Lizzy. 
Maybe I'll write something more about them some day. The more I think about it, the more it seems the late Middle Ages must have been a time of huge social and cultural change.

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