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Views on violence
By Leo
07 June 2006
I'm putting my serious cap on for a minute. I would welcome any comments.

When I posted ‘Marie’s the name, of his latest flame’, I was really pleased by the numbers of you that took the time out to post a comment. When I was reading through them, there was one thing that struck me, and that was the number of you that felt Ray deserved his comeuppance. This demonstrates a fundamental truth, and that is that whilst violence is undignified, brutal, chaotic, immoral and unlawful, it is not pointless.
 
Just to clarify a point before we continue. Violence can be defined as ‘behaviour with the potential to cause harm. Therefore it is not just a physical act. Yes it has physical forms; punching, kicking, biting etc, but it also has non-physical forms; sabotage, abuse, threats and intimidation.
 
As I was saying, violence is not pointless. It is an example of what is called ‘functional’ behaviour. This is behaviour that is used by an individual to get what they want, or to provide them with some tangible benefit.
 
Social scientists have identified the three main ‘functions’ of violence:
  • To restore justice
  • To control the behaviour of others
  • To assert and protect identity
 
In respect of ‘restoring justice’, this is when violence is used to punish a wrongdoer. Violence and justice have been inextricably linked, right back to prehistoric times. In the bible it talks about taking ‘an eye for an eye’. Ask yourself a question; do you think that it’s right to smack a naughty child? Or, let’s put it another way, what would you do if you saw a young thug punch a little old lady and steal her pension book? This highlights another fundamental truth; we all have the capacity for violence, every single one of us.
 
When you are taking about ‘controlling the behaviour of others’ you are talking about two types of control. One is that which is used for ‘material gain’. Violence here is used to make the other person give you want you want; cash, drugs or information. A mugger uses the threat of violence to force the victim to hand over their valuables, an irate customer uses aggression to obtain a refund and a parent uses the threat of a smack to get the child to admit that they were bunking of school.
 
The other form of behavioural control is what is known as ‘demand avoidance’. In this instance violence is used by a person to make other people go away, or leave them alone. A resident in a care home may not wish to go swimming or join in with group activities. They use violence to communicate their wishes. Staff then back off and ‘…let Leo do his own thing…’
 
Thirdly and finally there is the use of violence to ‘assert and protect identity’. There seems to be a huge number of people, mainly but not exclusively men, who yearn for some form of status or standing. They need to define themselves. They don’t or are unable to achieve this through other, more civilised or appropriate means. But they realise they are able to achieve this by demonstrating the willingness to utilise violence. Look in W.H.Smith’s at the profusion of books that glorify ‘tough guys’ or ‘hard men’. These are guys who have ‘respect’. Go into any pub in any town centre and you will witness such posturing. Increasingly the need to ‘be a man’ is something that is trickling down to younger and younger generations. Read the newspapers and you will see teenager gang members performing quite horrendous acts of violence.
 
All of these explanations can be scaled up to societies and nations. One nation punishes another for wrongdoing, one nation bully’s another to obtain precious resources and yet another nation flexes it’s military muscles to demonstrate that is a force to be reckoned with.
 
I digress. Getting back to interpersonal violence, there are three manifestations of violence; planned, spontaneous and involuntary violence.

The planned type of violence is fairly self-explanatory; the robber is going to hold up the off-license and the use of the violence is a strategy he will employ to dominate and control the situation.

Involuntary violence is the type of violence displayed by patients coming out from under anaesthetic, lashing out as they come round.

The last type of violence, and by far the most common, is the spontaneous variety. In this instance, the person chooses violence in the heat of the moment because they believe that no other strategy will enable them to get what they want.

In this type of situation there are three mitigating factors that will increase the likelihood of the individual choosing violence; drink, drugs and derangement. You will forgive me for using the term ‘derangement’, I realise that it is not one that everyone is entirely comfortable with. In this instance I am only using it to refer to the presence of certain specific mental health disorders and acute stress. In all three cases the reason violence becomes more likely, is because the brain is not functioning effectively.

The ability of the individual in question to make a rational, considered decision is impaired. Their ability to complete a cost/benefit analysis is absent. They don’t appreciate the risks, because they are focused on meeting their immediate needs; justice, money, power or status etc. now, we are led to believe that alcohol consumption, drug use and stress levels are increasing. So is it little wonder that levels of violence follow suit. Furthermore we live in a society, where a ‘culture of entitlement’ prevails, where for a long time we have been telling our children to go out and take what’s rightfully theirs. Maybe somewhere along the way the true message has been lost.
 
As I close, I’d like to mention the fact that when I’m not on the Great Writing Website, pouring over the great works that have been posted, I am occasionally to be found at cheese and wine parties. It’s here that I am content to have a natter over a cocktail sausage. Often the conversation settles on the levels of violence in society. My dinner guest will say something like ‘wouldn’t the world be a better place if there was less violence?  Whilst I nod and agree, indeed it would, inside my personal feeling is not so much ‘why is there so much violence in the world?’, it’s ‘why isn’t there more?’. The sad truth of the matter is that violence, in the short term at least, provides results.
 
 
 

Reviews
A heavy read.
Written by BrianRobertNeal (1195 comments posted) 7th June 2006
God for a moment I was back at the LSE in a seminar, teasing the very intense American Occasional Students (AKA Draft Dodgers) whose BA or BSc was held to be the equivalent of One A level. 
 
It might help if you broke the larger paragraphs up. 
 
The trouble with subjects such this is they can become an expando ad-absurdum, I'm controlling an urge to start quoting, Pareto, then Plato and back to the Utilitarians and so on. 
 
Regarding violence there seems to be violence for it's own sake and violence for a purpose. However there will always be intelectuals who will attempt to rationalise "Pointless Violence"  
 
I believe that the violence used by parents to control children if it was for a specific purpose like "not putting your fingers in the fire", or taking vital medecine, and so on is crucial. 
 
We find ourselves faced with a juvenile population that has never been properly controlled and the consequence is the Violence we now see on our streets.  
 
My wife who is a teacher is appalled at the amount of time spent controlling disruptive behaviour. Very few of the children have heard the word "NO". Not only can she not chastise them physically she cannot use other means such as deprivations-No play-time or even stern tellings off. 
 
I come from a rough area of Tottenham so this is not an academic point. I could go anywhere, do what I wanted as long as I was not flash or mouthy. That is not the case in Bishop's Stortford on a Friday or Saturday Night. 
 
In the past the Yob Gangs went for each other and not for harmless vicitms, also Violent Death was not the constant visitor that it has now become. They'd give each other a slap, but kicking into a senseless pulp was unheard off and knifings were rare outside of places like Glagow, parts of the East End of London and so on. 
 
Pointless violence, i.e. attacking something that in no way threatens you has become the norm. 
 
Didn't he ramble, 
 
Sorry about that , 
 
Brian. 
 
Incredibly Inciteful and Thought Provoki
Written by mishmish (389 comments posted) 7th June 2006
Well done Leo - this is really excellent. 
 
You write on a subject on violence with ease, although having some background in pyschology, I know that these reads are normally much heavier, and certainly not digestable. Your piece was fluid... 
 
...like a fine wine to saviour. 
 
By the way, I always wonder about the possibility of people being born evil or born good. And what is evil and good anyway? I guess it's the nature v nurture thing again. 
 
BTW 'Consequences...' is going to touch on all of this...Quite eerie really...And quite prescient! Are you in my head, Leo!! 
 
But I really enjoyed this...great writing! 
 
best wishes 
 
mishmish 
 
 
Taken your advice!
Written by Leo (573 comments posted) 7th June 2006
I've broken some of the paragraphs a bit, just to make it a bit easier to digest - don't want any of the readers to get indigestion! 
 
I agree, the sad reality is that there are people out there wreaking violence upon deserving, as well as undeserving victims.  
 
I'm sure that if i were on the spot, in the moment, when an attack took place and was able to wangle 'just a moment of your time sir' to ask them WHY? i'm sure i would get a snort and a gruff 'coz i can...'.  
 
In which case i would huff, and roll my eyes aloft, before yelling back, 'what sort of an answer is that!!.. don't you read the goddam textbooks you fricking imbecile!'  
 
Anyway... i suppose the real question that needs answering, is not 'why do they do it?', it's 'How can we prevent it?' 
 
Best regards as ever 
 
leo

Written by Bottleblondesurfer (3590 comments posted) 7th June 2006
Someone once said violence was the language of the inarticulate, mind you he got a right twatting from the bloke he said it to 
It was an interesting piece and made me think about it for a while especially as I live in the violent crime capital of England. Instead of being a last response to a situation is becoming the immediate one. There was some shame in giving in to violence now it is becoming cool. You gave a clear and concise break down of it which I found enlightening but as for an answer as to prevent it I have to say as a woman it is something men must primarily address (no offence,sweetie) 
cheers  
BBS
Men beware!
Written by Leo (573 comments posted) 8th June 2006
I'm pretty confident that if you look at the prison figures, it will reveal that women are getting convicted of violent crime at an ever increasing rate... so before long the boot will be on the other foot, or at least swung hard into the other testicle!

Written by brook_rivers (486 comments posted) 9th June 2006
Your essay writing flows with the same confidence as your fiction! A great follow up to your story. I think this will prompt people to really think about the issues in a post when they are reading, as this shows that you can create a whole new discussion post from a story!!! 
 
well done 
 
brook
Interesting.....
Written by netkwake (31 comments posted) 10th June 2006
Hiya, 
 
I read this with great interest because violence in society is a particular hobby-horse of mine and has been the subject of many a letter to the local papers and has been discussed widely on various forums in which I have taken part. 
 
One of your points "everyone has the capability to commit violent acts" is an absolutely valid one. I know from bitter experience that feeling threatened or actually being attacked can result in extreme reactions and can sometimes result in a person doing things they would never normally do, in those instances, the violence isn't mindless or pointless, it is about self protection. 
 
Brian raises an absolutely valid point in my view and one which is unfortunately sending the country nose-diving, that is the one of a general lack of discipline and respect in the home resulting in kids growing up with no-limits on their behaviour.  
 
Lets not pretend, it is a fact that there has always been violence but it was once considered cowardly for a group to pick on one person, now a group will kick a person senseless and think they have done something marvelous. 
 
Certain people were taboo in respect of attacks, even hardened criminals drew the line at the elderly or infirm, now anyone is a valid target, the limits on behaviour have gone. 
 
If you see a youngster committing violent or anti-social acts, don't even think about approaching the parent because it is likely that the parent will be equally violent, this behaviour is being passed down now through generations and the message is that anything goes in making sure you get waht you want. 
 
This country is a cess pit and becomes more so every day. It is something to do with British mentality because the same problems do not manifest themselves in the same way in the rest of Europe. 
 
I'd better leave it at this because I have to go away and calm down....... 
 
regards 
nk 
 
ps.....I stiil enjoyed it Leo:):) cos it got me thinking again.  
 

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