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Day after Day - Chapter 23
By jean.day
31 July 2006
More of the life of the Marquis of Winchester (a very distant relative of Muriel's) in the 17th Century from the Proceedings of the Houseof Lords.

Still wading through the pages of notes that Muriel and May had made in their visit to the Beauchamps, May went again through her list in order of references to the Marquis of Winchester.

2 July 1661

Marq. of Winchester's Estate.
An ingrossed Bill for the Marquis of Winchester, was this Day read the Third time: And
Resolved, That the said Bill do pass.
Resolved, That the Title of the said Bill shall be, An Act for Reparation and Satisfaction to be made unto John Lord St. John of Basing, Earl of Wilts, and Marquess of Winchester, out of the Manors and Lands of Robert Wallop Esquire, for the Sum of Ten thousand pounds, heretofore granted unto him by the then pretended Parliament, out of the said Marquess of Winchester's Estate.

 ‘Interesting how he says, the then pretended parliament.'

‘Again, this next is not to do with your relatives, but interesting all the same. And why do you suppose that they sometimes say Marquis and sometimes Marquess?’

‘I expect it has to do with whether the person doing the writing has a French background or not.’

Executing Regicides.

Ordered, That Mr. Solicitor General do bring in a Bill, To-morrow Morning, for Execution of the Persons, Prisoners in the Tower, condemned for the horrid Murder of his late Sacred Majesty King Charles the First

Marq. of Winchester's Award.
30 May 1663
Marq. of Winton's Bill.
‘An Act for confirming the Conveyances made, or mentioned to be made, in Pursuance of the Award by the King's Majesty, for composing the Differences between John Lord Marquis of Winchester and his Eldest Son Charles Lord St. John.’
 
‘Finally we have something that doesn’t have to do with the imprisonment of the Marquis of Winchester.’

‘Another 11 years pass.’

27 January 1674
Marq. of Winton, Privilege, not to be proceeded against for Recusancy.
The House being informed, ‘That the Lord Marquis of Winchester, a Peer of this Realm, is proceeded against for Recusancy, during the Sitting of Parliament, contrary to the Privilege of Parliament:’

Upon Consideration had thereof, it is ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That the said Marquis of Winchester (not being a Convicted Recusant) shall have the Privilege of Parliament, to be discharged of all Proceedings had against him for Recusancy since the Time of Privilege began, and during the Continuance of the same Privilege; and that if any Indictment have been brought against him for Recusancy during the Time of Privilege aforesaid, the same shall be forthwith brought into the Court of King's Bench by Certiorari, and the King's Attorney shall enter a Non Pros. upon the same.

‘In other words, he had his name cleared, after the event.’

 ‘Then we have pages and pages of details of the court case, which I have eliminated, although it was very interesting. I know what I have copied next is long, but it shows the sort of work the Marquis was doing as a magistrate after he was released from prison and got his lands back.’

The Information of Henry Berry, Porter of the Gate at Somersett House, taken by the Right Honourable the Marquis of Winchester, this 11th Day of November, 1678, as followeth; videlicet,

‘Oh, there’s another word to be looked up.’

Muriel reached for her huge dictionary in the corner of the table, ‘Videlicit – it means towit or that is saying.’

‘It sounds a bit unnecessary for them to put it in, seems to me. Now this next bit is just to show the sorts of things he was doing after he was back in favour again.’

John Saunders, being sworn, and examined by the Right Honourable the Lord Marquis of Winchester, One of the Justices of the Peace for the County of Midlesex, saith, That this Deponent hath seen Mr. Lee Faire, in Company with Mr. Bedloe; and that he was bound, with Mrs. Herne, unto a Shoemaker, for Ten Pounds; which Money Mr. Lee Faire brought, and took the Bond in the Shoemaker's Name. And Mr. Lee Phaire was a Witness unto the same Bond, together with Mr. Bedloe.
The Information of Alexander Oldis, taken the 12th of November, 1678, before the Right Honourable the Marquis of Winchester, One of His Majesty's Justices of the Peace for the County of Midd's: 

 ‘I think that is enough for one day,’ said May, and Muriel agreed that they would meet again at ten the next morning.
 


Reviews

Written by Bottleblondesurfer (3445 comments posted) 1st August 2006
As I was reading this I was think just how things have changed legally. The Marquis can go from being a prisoner to a magistrate.I'm sure that couldn't happen now, though the rich and powerful had their priviliges. It's still true that the rich have justice and the poor have to make do with the law. Some inteteresting work clearly laid out 
cheers 
BBSing
Short term memory problems!
Written by Bagheera (683 comments posted) 1st August 2006
BBS has apparently forgotten that convicted criminals such as Jeffrey Archer and Peter Mandelson have been welcomed back from doing a stretch, and with wide open arms to boot! 
 
All the same, jean, this provides a fascinating insight into life at the time: plus ça change, n'est-ce pas?
Thanks Bagheera and BBS
Written by jean.day (2326 comments posted) 1st August 2006
I was worried that people would find this bit of the book too detailed, and I did cut out about 75% of the material about him that I downloaded. But I found it fascinating. And as you will find out in the next installment, things weren't quite as Muriel and May had assumed them to be.

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