I thought I would use real letters in this section as I have often before written bits about our courtship, (CELEBRATIONS) honeymoon ( RAIN) and day to day life.
Philip - finally.
November 13, 1966
Dear Mom, Dad and Judy, (I used carbon paper and sent two letters off. Judy wasn’t living at home)
Phil fixed my typewriter so the s’s hit. He’s awfully nice to have around. So I will devote the rest of this letter to him.
You will be hearing a lot about him, since this promises to be a close friendship, so you may as well be properly introduced to him right away. Philip Day is from Guernsey, an island in the English Channel, just north of France. He is 29, has his PhD in Chemistry from Oxford, no less, and he likes me.
When I got home from work on Friday, I had this note in my mail box saying, “I suspect you’re busy this weekend, but if not, would you consider having dinner and seeing a film with me?”
So I said “I’d love to,” even though I was supposed to go to a baby shower that night.
I was on top of the world. Remember I wrote that he’d come over on my birthday last week and I’d a feeling that perhaps he’d ask me out, and Marcy, my roommate, told me not to be so stupid. Well, I was right. So I took three hours getting ready for our date, nail polish and all.
We went to a hotel restaurant in Chicago and the service wasn’t very good, so Phil refused to tip. They were very mad and I was very embarrassed, but he said it would be a mockery to tip for bad service.
We went to see Alfie, which is a better version of Tom Jones. It was an English movie, so Phil felt right at home He had to translate some of it for me. Then we went out to a pub and had beer, and came home and talked (and stuff) until three. I discovered he’d been thinking of asking me out for the last three weeks but hadn’t because of a remark I made when he was critical of my bridge playing ability and I said he enjoyed hurting people. And he didn’t think I’d acted very interested. (He must have been pretty thick.)
But we did have a nice time. Then on Sunday, we walked to the Ba’hai Temple and went inside. Then we sat by Lake Superior and watched the waves and boats go by. Then we went to his apartment for tea and toast and then he came here and I made him supper. Marcy was very angry and said that she resented paying for his portion of food. I think she was jealous actually because she has known him as long as I have, and I think she was rather hoping it would be her he asked out.
He asked if I’d be dating anyone else and I said no, so I guess you could say we are going steady. Actually on the second date, on Sunday, he told me that any girl he married would have to agree to live in England. I was rather taken aback by that, and sort of giggled. “Would you consider it?” he went on. “Yes, of course I would,” I said. So be warned.
He’s a Christian, no less. I was beginning to think there weren’t any of those left. He belongs to the Church of England. While we were on the subject of marrying on our second date, I said, “I will want to be married in the Catholic Church,” which he was not very happy about, but I told him that it wasn’t that I expected my husband to convert or anything like that. I know both of your husbands converted Mom, but I don’t think it is such a big deal any more.
He’s going home for Christmas as he is very close to his family and is homesick. His dad and one brother, who is in Africa, are teachers. The other brother is living in Australia and is a mathematician.
Phil is about 5’11” tall, and weighs about 160 lbs. He has sandy hair, quite long, but not Beatle like - just English looking. He’s quite good looking, and really quite shy. He has red cheeks and doesn’t care much about clothes. He dislikes girls who wear nail polish, dye their hair, and wear make-up. Really he is awfully nice and I hope something comes of this. It is a good feeling to have someone really like me, and I believe he is sincere.
Love
Jeanie
Here is the letter I found amongst his mother’s things when she died. Note the date on it compared to the letter I wrote to my parents.
21st April, 1967
Dear Mum and Dad,
Just so as not to take you too much by surprise, I had better warn you that I will quite likely want to get married - to an American! - Sometime later this year. Nothing definite yet - just a warning. And don’t worry that I shall suddenly announce I have done so either - I will let you know how things progress and you can make plans if and when necessary. Whatever happens, I would hope to live in England eventually so don’t be too upset. I expect you could get used to an American accent in time.
Love
Philip
8th May, 1967
Dear Mum and Dad,
Thank you very much for your letters. I am now properly engaged - I don’t know if you want to publish the fact anywhere. The girl’s name is Barbara Jean Wyngarden and she lives nearby. In case you should wonder, Wyngarden is originally a Dutch name, not German, and the family moved to America many generations ago. I am sending a not-very-good photo and I will send a better one sometime. Jean teaches dietetics at the School of Nursing at Evanston Hospital.
We would like to get married in the summer. If you want to come over, I can offer to pay your fares, but I had thought that instead of your coming here, we could come to England after the wedding. Although it would be very nice if you could both be there, and also I would have liked you to meet Jean before we got married, I think it would be silly to keep flying back and forth. So I’m sure the best plan is for us to come and see you. If you would like to hold a wedding party in Oxford or Norfolk, I think that is a very good idea.
In case you want to write to Jean’s parents, I will include their address. They are all Roman Catholics, by the way, so I shall have to get married in an RC Church, although I don’t intend to become one myself. I think this will only affect you in that you have to sign a form saying I haven’t been married before.
Love,
Philip
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Written by Phil (6845 comments posted) 25th February 2007 |
It's hard to imagine sharing news of getting married with parents by letter - phone too occasionally I guess. Britain's so small that getting anywhere takes less than a day. (Traffic allowing.) Fascinating way to show this part of your courtship. Enjoyed it. When Philip wrote his letter I was nine days old! Phil. |
Written by Witzl (1585 comments posted) 25th February 2007 |
I enjoyed reading this, Jean, and it is funny how detailed your letter is, compared to your husband's. When Philip went home for Christmas that year, did he mention you to his parents? Did Marcy go to your wedding? She sounds rather petty, I must say. Fortunately, my father and stepmother agreed that having a wedding would be silly, considering all the airfares, etc. So we got married at the Ichikawa City Hall and saved our money for a really long honeymoon. We had to send letters too, and Peter's letter to his father got lost in the mail. For the longest time, we assumed that he was disappointed or shocked, but he just hadn't gotten the letter.
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Thanks Phil and Mary Written by jean.day (2327 comments posted) 25th February 2007 |
No, Marcie wasn't invited to the wedding - but my home town was 1000 miles from where we were living at the time. I'm pretty sure Philip didn't mention me to his parents that Christmas, but I wrote to him a lot, so they must have known something was going on. Philip only had 3 English people as guests at the wedding - none of his family came but we then spent our 3 week honeymoon in England, so I really think he didn't do too badly. I must admit that I was rather hurt when I realised that he had written so little about me - and it sounded so cold and dull. |
Written by Kathy (220 comments posted) 25th February 2007 |
Jean, I just had to write to tell you how much I enjoyed your letters. The way you write is really engaging and I couldn't wait to find out what happened next! I wondered whether you wrote a lot of letters which could form into a collection? I am not surprised at Philip's 'reserve' in his letters to his parents... some British men simply don't like to expand upon their feelings, but it doesn't mean that they don't have any of-course... not very encouraging for you though!! Thanks, Kathy |
Thanks Kathy Written by jean.day (2327 comments posted) 25th February 2007 |
I do have a lot of old letters. My sister Kathleen saved every letter I had ever written her - hundreds of them, and she gave them back to me a few years ago. And Philip's mother saved all the letters she got from her sons, so that is how I know what he wrote to them. I am doing a collection - just for my children - of a sort of family history - featuring me of course, and also of all the writing I have done. It just seems to me a nice idea to have it in a pretty shiny covered book rather than in dirty boxes in the attic. |
Written by Kathy (220 comments posted) 26th February 2007 |
Perhaps your you and your family would like for them to remain private, its just that I could imagine that normal people's lives, especially if they scan important historical events can be more interesting than the dry facts about kings and queens for example. At least we can all relate to 'people like us'. Regards, Kathy |
Written by Kathy (220 comments posted) 26th February 2007 |
Perhaps your you and your family would like for them to remain private, its just that I could imagine that normal people's lives, especially if they scan important historical events can be more interesting than the dry facts about kings and queens for example. At least we can all relate to 'people like us'. Regards, Kathy |
Hi again Kathy Written by jean.day (2327 comments posted) 26th February 2007 |
Do keep your first impressions of your work - and then when you do other versions, you can decide in the end which you like best. As far as publishing my family story - I have done a bit of that with an older generation. There is a section in Extended Writing called Anna and Rosie - and it is the story of my mother and her sister - corresponding over 50 years. The letters from my mother were almost originals - I did tweak and edit them here and there. The ones from her sister I wrote, but I thought I had based them on what she would have said. I recently sent a copy to my cousin - the daughter of Rosie - and she didn't like the letters at all. She said I couldn't convey how her mother looked, how she talked, what she was like. So I feel bad I shared them with her now. I thought they were loving and rather special - and she felt they misrepresented the family. So I am not likely to take the risk with stories that relate even more closely to me - and risk upsetting any more family members. |
Written by Kathy (220 comments posted) 26th February 2007 |
Hi Jean Thanks, I will keep all copies of my work and re-visit them in a few months time. Understand entirely about your family's feelings, they do come first of course. I shall look forward to reading the above... Have you ever written 'fictional' letters backwards and forwards between an imaginary family? Perhaps it wouldn't hold an interest. Regards. Kathy |
Written by coosh (888 comments posted) 26th February 2007 |
| Nicely rounded off, Jean - it's a good technique, using letters - reminded me of the first time I read "Les Liaisons Dangereuses" - must have been interesting finding his letters after the event. Enjoyed the references to the typewriter, the non-German name, and the tipping - never visited the States, but have heard some fairly hair-raising stories about the consequences of failing to tip, with waiters charging down the street after customers, and even following them home. Nice for Mum and Dad to get the occasional letter that doesn't say "I'm a bit strapped for cash" - thoroughly enjoyed your descriptions of all these characters. |
Thanks Coosh and Kathy Written by jean.day (2327 comments posted) 26th February 2007 |
I'm pleased it went down well. Yes, Kathy, I have tried fictional letters - and got quite a good response. In my book called Day after Day, the second half is full of letters from the two main characters - all made up - but most people thought they were genuine. Anyway, thanks for your interest. |
Written by teddy (240 comments posted) 26th February 2007 |
hi Jean, I've been looking forward to this. It did take Phil quite a while to tell his parents about you but then again, men are usually more reserved than women I suppose. I smiled when I saw the way he signed his letters, not Phil but Philip, it sounds so poshly English. I have a friend called Charles, he comes from e very traditional English family (his parents both Oxford graduates) and he absolutely hates when people try to shorten his name in Charlie or similar. Is Philip the same? I too found Marcie a little mean, perhaps she was indeed jealous. She doesn't sound like a real friend to me. I like the way you narrrated this story through letters written to your parents, I think it makes the read more engaging. teddy |
Written by ellipinnock (1753 comments posted) 26th February 2007 |
Thought these really interesting Jean. I don't know whether it's a generic male-female thing but I think in the same situation I would probably have written reams about Huw and he probably have said even less than Philip did! It's funny - what with so much instantaneous electronic communication available I guess most people don't write letters anymore, I know I rarely do so you wouldn't necessarily have the resource of all these letters. I liked, 'he has a PhD from Oxford, no less, AND he likes me' now that sentence says a thousand things (it did to me anyway). As did 'talked (and stuff)' lol. Lots of nice touches in these in fact. Really enjoyed the read. Elli |
HI Teddy and Elli Written by jean.day (2327 comments posted) 27th February 2007 |
Philip has always been Philip to his parents and family but Phil to his colleagues. I used to call him Phil - but now call him Philip all the time. We chose names for our children that could not be easily made into nicknames because he hated so much having a Mike or Bob or heaven forbid Dick around. And he has never called me Jeanie - that was only a family thing - but they still do it now - my sister's kids for example. I checked through his old letters to his parents yesterday to see if he waxed lyrical when our first baby was born - but it turns out that I wrote the original letter on the subject so his was about weight and feeding schedules and boring stuff like that. But I am so pleased to have lived in an era when letters were used - I can tell my kids literally what they did as they grew up. But I stupidly through all my mothers letters away when she died - such a loss of a wonderful resource. |
Hi Jean Written by Clifftown (642 comments posted) 27th February 2007 |
I've just finished reading all of your accounts of the men in your life...what a storyteller you are! I really enjoyed reading them and I think if it's possible, your writing just gets better and better. 'Non Fiction' is my favourite section on the GW site so far and you are one of my favourite authors - please continue your contributions! I agree with the sentiments about Philip's letter being a bit brief - but think yourself lucky, my husband wouldn't have written a word to his parents about me. He hates reading and writing, and won't even read anything I've written! |
Thanks Nina Written by jean.day (2327 comments posted) 27th February 2007 |
I'm glad you liked my stories. I was very nervous about putting them up - thinking myself such a gullible simpleton in my relationships. Philip never reads my stories either - although he helps me write them. I talk to him about plots and such like and background information. But as far as I know he has never read anything that I have written straight through. In a way I am glad about that, because if he said he didn't like my writing, I would feel bad - and since I don't know for sure, I can assume that he would like it. |
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