I'm usually very critical about Hollywood's portrayal of history, but I make an exception for king Arthur.
In 2004 Hollywood enriched Arthurian legend with another incarnation of the once and future king. Played by Clive Owen, the Roman officer Artorius Castus organized an army of Sarmatian auxilliae and Pictish guerillas to fight the invading Saxons. It was a fantastic story, accompanied by the bold claim of being the 'untold true story'.
The purists were not amused. How dared anyone twist the tale of their Arthur into a fantasy story and claim it to be the 'true story'?
Romans north of Hadrian's wall, Picts speaking an incomprehensible sort of Celtic, a dark haired Guinevere, Sarmatians in Mongol armor, shooting armor piercing bolts from crossbows, a Pictish princess speaking the queen's English... Oh, the blasphemy!
Funnily enough, I enjoyed the film tremendously, and although I doubt if this Hollywood story comes even close to history, I found little that contradicted the known facts (also hardly anything supported by them though). Of course Hadrian's wall formed the border of the empire and to my knowledge no Roman ruins were found north of it, but does that rule out the possibility? Pictish is known to be a Brythonic language, but does anyone know how it was pronounced? And Gwenhwyfar may mean 'white ghost', but aren't there today dark-haired girls called Bianca or Fiona as well?
The events shown in the film are very unlikely, but still more likely than a lady's hand rising out of a lake, waving an unbreakable sword. Of course the label 'the untold true story' is ridiculous, but then, Hollywood might even claim Star Wars is based upon truth. I watched this as a fantasy film, inspired by the history of Britain, but certainly not based on it, and I liked it.
In reality, the only contemporary, Celtic, source which mentions Arthur is Y Gododdin, where a certain warrior feeds the ravens, but is no Arthur (ceni bei ef arthur). And that's all there is. All we know is that somewhere before the battle of Catraeth there was some guy named Arthur who killed a lot of people. All the rest of Arthurian myth is fiction, whichever version you choose, and who knows, perhaps even Aneirin made his part up.
Chretien de Troyes created the fantastic version which the purists adore, with Uther Pendragon and Excalibur, Morgause, Mogana, Galahad, Parceval, Gawain and all those others. This was centuries after Arthur is supposed to have lived and his version is just as Walt-Disneyfied as well, Walt Disney's version.
Scientists have been busy trying to stick the label Arthur on historical warlords, Roman generals, priests and petty kings... From Germanus of Auxerre (the villain in the film) to Artorius Castus (the Arthur in the film), from Ambrosius Aurelianus to Magnus Maximus, but none has ever been able to conclusively provide evidence that his choice is the real king Arthur.
And meanwhile the purists accuse Hollywood of twisting the tale. 'First Knight' and 'Excalibur', 'The mists of Avalon' and 'King Arthur', all of them new incarnations of this ancient story, and all of them critisized by the lovers of the myth.
I wonder... Over a thousand years are people going to quarrel over the historical Harry Potter?
King Arthur is a product of the mind, irrespective if a true warlord of that name existed. The once and future king is a personification of virtue and nobility, a warrior who fights the invaders and protects the Island of the Mighty, the leader of the quest for the Sangreal. There is not one King Arthur, there are as many as there are writers and each of them is as real as the other... Who cares if today's Guinevere is Keira Knightley wearing a leather bikini?
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Written by Witzl (1585 comments posted) 16th April 2007 |
I'll bet a lot of people went to see this precisely because Keira Knightley was wearing a leather bikini, and no one said 'No,' I'm not going to see any movie about King Arthur if it features a beautiful scantily clad young woman.' But I'm glad it didn't play too fast and free with history to the point where it put you off. When we were running our B&B, I don't think I could count the number of people (largely my fellow Americans) who asked us where Braveheart took place. I felt like crying. People believe Hollywood's account of events -- they don't seem to grasp that movies are primarily made to entertain and titillate. I tried to tell people that the events in Braveheart were a silly hodge-podge of fact and made-up nonsense. That whole business of droit de seigneur never happened in Scotland, and to make that a major point of the movie was just ridiculous. The way all the English looked like wimps and all the Celts came out looking fine and upstanding really irritated me, and I come from a long line of people who were just itching to hate the English. But I'll just get off my soap box and tell you that I enjoyed reading this, Fledermaus. Maybe I'll even take the husband to see Keira Knightley in her leather bikini... if I can persuade him to go with me. |
Written by Fledermaus (3448 comments posted) 16th April 2007 |
Thanks Witzl. It's a strange thing indeed that people seem to expect that films are historically accurate. I certainly doubt if the Scottish of William Wallace's age looked in any way like Mel Gibson's hooligans, but that's an enjoyable film which shouldn't be taken too seriously too. Where films about king Arthur are concerned though, I think directors can do whatever they like, as the whole myth has been made up. Except for that one line in Y Gododdin there is nothing which shows there has actually been a king Arthur. That makes it hardly less fascinating though, as these stories reflect the age in which they are made rather than iron age Britain. In mediaval texts, Guinevere is the distant lady for whose honour the knights fight, gradually she became the adulter, then the damsel who had to be resqued, the self confident woman and today she's even a warrior herself. Similarly Arthur changed from a rather violent man in Culhwch ac Olwen to the wise king and back to the warrior again. The latest king Arthur movie probably tells a lot more about the early 21st century than that it does about the 6th. |
hoorah! |Dispelling the myth Written by johniebg (553 comments posted) 18th April 2007 |
Finally someone has done their research. Spot on. I really enjoyed this movie, mostly for me as a die hard Englishman -of the England it portrayed as one that exists partly in reality and partly in the fantasy of my mind. Especially so as it was imaginatively helmed by a black American from Philadelphia. So much of the Arthurian legend exists from writings from the middle ages and onwards that were used to entertain the court. Practically none of it can be taken as gospel Are you studying humanities - interested to know how you came to this. I listened to a very interesting series of lectures from the Teaching Company on The Arthurian legend.
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PS Written by johniebg (553 comments posted) 18th April 2007 |
| Keira did look rather hot holding a bow and dressed in two leather belts. |
The real version US style Written by BrianRobertNeal (1195 comments posted) 18th April 2007 |
Hi Lancie let's kick some butt then hi-tail it to the Antonine Wall.* Sure thing Art. Disneyian Arthur was kick started by Mallory? to counter the 13th/14th Century French tales about some bloke and a bugle. It was all tied up with "Chivalry"-Tales of Knightly daring-do and tragic defeat. *There was a wall built north of Hadrian's it was less solid possibly built of turf! and was soon abandoned, possibly following the loss of the 9th Legion. Brian.
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Written by Fledermaus (3448 comments posted) 18th April 2007 |
Thanks Johnie and Brian, Johnie: I've taken a few courses in Celtic languages and culture (not that I know very much Gaelic or Welsh, but enough to more or less read such texts). Funnily enough some students, when they know just a little bit more than they used to know think they know it all and start complaining about 'historical inaccuracies'. Historical inaccuracies of a story that has always been fantasy... It's like quarreling over the size of Hobbits' feet... Brian: Ah yes, I never knew which one was north of which, one learns something every day So there have been Romans north of the wall. Just another thing to beat those purists with. Ah yes Tomas Mallory, he deserves a lot of credit too, as does Geofrey of Monmouth. They made up a complete alternative history of Britain. I supose that's ultimate succes for a writer: Making something up and convincing people hundreds of years later that it was true... |
Written by fellpony (1656 comments posted) 19th April 2007 |
i had to work hard to get a rental copy of the Clive Owen King Arthur and I didn't feel it was worth the effort because the story line was so weak! Having some knowledge of the Sarmatian background brought into the film by Linda Malcor, I found the costuming interesting, but not much of the fact fitted. Lucius Artorius Castus commanded a group based in Ribchester, Lancs, in the 2nd C - and there were Faasands of 'em - 5,500 conscripts from Sarmatia - not just the few in the film. The gang who were up at Hadrian's wall were the French lot, the Ala Petriana (and there were 1,000 of them, too). Main attraction of the movie: Ray Winstone playing Sir Bors. The idea of a Cockney voice growling "I love my kids" in the midst of the dramatic stuff was immensely amusing. *** Fledermaus, I enjoyed your piece and thought it made some excellent points. The tale may well have had some famous character at its centre who accreted all the other stuff over the centuries. Loved your review remark about the arguments over "historical fact" being like quarrelling over the size of hobbits' feet. Priceless.*** Incidentally there are medieval tales of Arthurian knights that were written in Cumbria and Wales as well as France (see http://www.fellpony.f9.co.uk/fells/15_16C/mediev1.htm). And one mustn't forget Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, which Roger Lancelyn-Green believed was based in Cheshire (Dibbinsdale, Wirral, which is now Merseyside). We needn't blame the French or Malory exclusively for Disneyising. |
Written by Fledermaus (3448 comments posted) 19th April 2007 |
Thanks fellpony, I bet that in Cumbria there are many places which claim a connection to king Arthur. But of course you also had Urien Rheged, and at least he did exist. I like the comments I get, as they teach me a lot of new things. So Artorius Castus didn't even live in that age? Somehow, when I saw the film I just ignored most names. Some, Like Germanus of Auxerre and Pelagius rang a bell, but as said, I looked at it as fantasy, set in a Britain that never was... The Welsh (including those of the north) did indeed write some fantastic tales about him too, and I supose it must have been from Welsh, Cornish and Breton sources that the French and English came into contact with them. So you're right we can't blame it all on them
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