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NECROPHILIA, Another Chapter Sample

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Re: NECROPHILIA, Another Chapter Sample

Postby Wolf's Rain » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:50 pm

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Re: NECROPHILIA, Another Chapter Sample

Postby kanasta » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:08 pm

Wow. I'm not being judgemental, merely pointing out that I don't feel it works as an allegory. I'm not even talking about your opinions, just critiquing the so-called allegorical nature of the writing. However I now realise I completely misunderstood your intentions, as I thought you were writing from the viewpoint of someone wanting more tolerance in the world, not less. In which case, I'd say you get your point across admirably- well done.
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Re: NECROPHILIA, Another Chapter Sample

Postby Wolf's Rain » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:25 pm

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Re: NECROPHILIA, Another Chapter Sample

Postby kanasta » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:55 pm

I made two points- first, that social commentary is not unusual in fiction. Second, that I don't feel this can be classed as an allegory. Any other points were made to demonstrate why I hold that opinion. For that, you launch an ad hominem rant against me and call me judgemental and disdainful? Not to mention apparently completely missing the point of a writing forum. I thought we were here to discuss each other's writing? That surely involves an element of saying whether one thinks something works or not? Really, I don't understand your rage. But don't worry, I will steer well clear of any comment on your work in the future!
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Re: NECROPHILIA, Another Chapter Sample

Postby Wolf's Rain » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:26 pm

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Re: NECROPHILIA, Another Chapter Sample

Postby kanasta » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:57 pm

My point was not that I believed your book was saying those things. My point was that if a person reads something as an allegory, they will look for a close connection between fictional events and reality. For example, in Animal Farm, the pigs represent the Communists and Orwell's story works on two levels- one as an animal tale, and on another level, a fairly accurate (if opinionated) account of the Russian Revolution. I said that I felt Necrophobia could not be seen as an allegory because the zombies do not represent one thing, but a multitude, which to me makes this more general satire than allegory. I then picked one of your given examples to show how I would read this if it were an allegory in the most literal sense of the word. I was assuming that you did not want to impart those meanings, but I was saying that if it were read as an allegory, those were the kinds of incorrect conclusions that someone giving a close reading might reach. My point was not that I believed that was what your book is trying to say, my point was that I can't see it as allegorical because there is not a close enough match between the fiction and the reality being commented on. This was not a criticism of the book itself but more a discussion of the literary terms you are using to describe it, as you call it an allegory in your earlier comment, a description which I feel is misleading.
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Re: NECROPHILIA, Another Chapter Sample

Postby Wolf's Rain » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:25 am

was deleting my posted novel excerpts and i stumbled across this thread.

This is why I don't like to argue. Turns out the book is both an allegory *and* a satire, like Lord of the Flies (i don't think they're comparable in literary quality; just using LotF as an example).

was trying to put this thread into words a few weeks ago and found the word 'officious'. Hope I've learned to tone down my opinions (and the unnecessary dramatics).

this is my last post on this site. thanks everyone for all the help. i think this particular chapter of my life has come to an end.
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