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[Sooz]

Hate to start a debate of the sexes here, but I think it may be that women read and pick up on things differently. I've got to agree with Sue's comment. I didn't pick up anything negative in her first one. I thought that she was genuinely trying to understand where you're coming from, as I have. I also thought your reply was defensive, and you're passionate about your work, so I can understand that, too, if you felt that you or your work was being attacked.

Your poetry is different to anything that I, or I'm guessing, anybody else on here, has read before. You're right, you are unique, certainly in my experience. The problem that that throws up is that, as you say yourself, people are probably not going to understand until they actually read many of your poems and study your style (our problem, not yours.) I think it's great that you are getting more comments and that people are taking the time to ask you questions.

I am genuinely interested in what you write. I find you clever and admire your ability to put something new out there. You've been really patient with me and I think that we've built a respect and trust between us to be able to say what we think.I like to think that we're friends, as much as you can be on here. I've read quite a lot now, and you review for other people far more than most people do. It'd be good if you could be more of a lover than a fighter. I really like you and I'm certainly learning something but Sometimes you read a bit prickly.

[peter]

Hello . I was a hedgehog in my past life . seriously , good points made .

[Sooz]

Another of your deep pieces, I like the flow of it and the folklore mixed with science rather than fighting against it.

[dragon]

I said it once and I'll say it again, what really attracts me to your poetry is the complete freedom to write as you please.

basically i`m a pretty ignorant get in academic terms , but in my own world , well that`s a different story

I couldn't agree more with the idea expressed here. It expresses a kind of self-respect and a sense of self-worth which I find highly admirable.

Unfortunately I do not have the poems to hand but I have written a number of poems in Italian. I chose the words from some Italian text I had available and chose them for their sound. That I do not understand a word of Italian I found no disadvantage though I do sometimes wonder if the words I chose might have made some sort of sense if I did know what they mean.

[Phil]

Hello Peter.

I've read a few of yours now. I have to say, I don't find what you're doing particularly engaging. It's good to try new ideas - otherwise we'd stagnate - but this idea doesn't do it for me. Is this a case of one trick pony - and the trick not being very good?

And Dragon - re your Italian poem, for the love of god - of course it would have had some sense in some kind of world- but it would have been complete nonsense. Children played this as a parlour game before television was invented - but at least they based their game on grammar.

Emperor's new clothes?

Phil

[Keith exD]

Is this a case of one trick pony - and the trick not being very good?

That is damn rude Phil! As I said not the sort of comment expected from a site moderator

[Phil]

Not damn rude - a response to the writing and what has gone before. Is it not acceptable to criticise writing?

There are other site moderators. If they don't like what I've posted, I'm sure it will be removed. Make sure you point it out to them, Keith.

[peter]

Hello . phil . there`s no tricks involved , but , maybe you should try catching , some of your flying bananas . i`d pay to see that performance . if you don`t like something fair enough .

[dragon]

Phil, in response to your comments to me and peter, one rude turn deserves another.....please tell me you've passed the Turing Test!

Is this a case of one trick pony - and the trick not being very good?

It seems to me you inhabit a word of metaphysical nothingness. Do you really think that humans, who do not need rules, are less intelligent than computers, which do need rules?

but at least they based their game on grammar

It seems to me your world of metaphysical nothingness cannot encompass the meaningfulness and substance of peter's work nor of mine. Or. to put it more simply, you completely miss the point. There is a complete failure of understanding. I will not check the grammar of this comment; I will just trust the there remains sufficient of something human in you that you will get the meaning.

[Sue]

Keith: not the sort of comment expected from a site moderator

Keith - as I have pointed out elsewhere to you, Phil and I and Mike have separate IDs on the site that we use for admin and moderation. When we wear our "writing" hats, we do so in order to speak freely without being sniped at "because we are moderators."

Feel free to disagree with any of us, as we do with you, but don't keep dragging up that point.

dragon: I chose the words from some Italian text I had available and chose them for their sound. That I do not understand a word of Italian I found no disadvantage though I do sometimes wonder if the words I chose might have made some sort of sense if I did know what they mean.

So a "thing" can be a creative product without the "creator" having any idea what he is creating? I disagreed with my Uni tutors back in the 70s on this point and I still disagree.